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Old 07-18-2012, 06:41 PM   #2476
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Re: Pepper sprayed for public safety.

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Mitt is looking more and more like Kerry. Supposed to be moderate and acceptable to the general election voter, but can't avoid coming off as an out of touch privileged elite who has taken every possible position on any given issues at one point or another.

The comparison breaks down, though, in that Romney has never achieved the level of boring that Kerry exudes.
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Re: Pepper sprayed for public safety.

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Mitt is looking more and more like Kerry. Supposed to be moderate and acceptable to the general election voter, but can't avoid coming off as an out of touch privileged elite who has taken every possible position on any given issues at one point or another.

The comparison breaks down, though, in that Romney has never achieved the level of boring that Kerry exudes.
Have you met Mitt?

Don't take this as a defense of Kerry in any way. But Mitt wins that battle.

Why does my state produce such wind-up-doll politicians?
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Old 07-18-2012, 09:39 PM   #2478
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Have you met Mitt?

Don't take this as a defense of Kerry in any way. But Mitt wins that battle.

Why does my state produce such wind-up-doll politicians?
2 boring people that think they're smart and witty but are boring.... who else do we know from Mass?
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2 boring people that think they're smart and witty but are boring.... who else do we know from Mass?
We're all a bit sick of you trolling Ty like this, and he's been out of the state for a long time now, anyways.
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We're all a bit sick of you trolling Ty like this, and he's been out of the state for a long time now, anyways.
whiff, original type.
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maybe the government should buy everyone some, then the economy will pick up!
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Old 07-19-2012, 12:33 PM   #2483
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maybe the government should buy everyone some, then the economy will pick up!
I'm no Milton Friedman, but I'm thinking coffee would work better.
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"this cauldron of stupidity we call a presidential campaign"
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Terrifying. We are all screwed.
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And Tyler Cowen.

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He's wrong. His argument is naked advocacy easily dismantled. Am I going to google all the stats to satisfy you? No. Why? Because an unsupported conclusion doesn't deserve it.

You offer a piece of shit like this and then chide me for reading the financial press?

ETA: Fuck it. Here, choke on this: http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jun...rtage-20100607
http://capsules.kaiserhealthnews.org...ctor-shortage/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/brucejap...acare-looming/
http://reason.com/blog/2011/05/04/li...l-wait-times-c
http://www.massmed.org/AM/Template.c...entDisplay.cfm

(Here's the long term reality. The health care act, though well meaning from an economic standpoint, expands care beyond current provider capacity. The reason for this? Because bleeding hearts insisted we expand coverage, rather than simply deal with costs, and this necessarily involves putting millions of people who'll never pay anything for their care into the system. And no mandate or tax imaginable will ever cover the cost of keeping millions of free-riders in the system for years, to perhaps decades, longer than they'd otherwise be in it.

We are giving preventative care to millions of people who'll never be able to pay for any portion of their health care. Under the old structure, as cold as this sounds, these people "left the system" early, and used it sparingly [Akin to Smoking's positive health care cost impact... the one we all understand, but no one dares speak aloud]. That decreased costs in much the same way smoking eliminated a lot of long term costs by clearing out early many of the bad health risks who'd otherwise linger on for decades with other chronic illnesses. [A large percentage of smokers die early from heart attacks, before they impose long term chronic illness costs on the system.]

What the health care act will create is a two tiered system. The upper middle to wealthy will have access to docs in structures geared to address that marketplace. The poor and lower middle will get even lousier care than they already do at increased cost to everyone else, including most significantly, and cruelly, them. [No, Hank, they will not make all doctors take Medicaid. I view that argument as a non-starter.]

Don't respond to this with a moral argument. I'm not saying I advocate a system that takes human "costs" out of the system early. But we're talking numbers here, and that's the reality.)
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He's wrong. His argument is naked advocacy easily dismantled. Am I going to google all the stats to satisfy you? No. Why? Because an unsupported conclusion doesn't deserve it.

You offer a piece of shit like this and then chide me for reading the financial press?
You don't have to google. Just click the links.

Your analogy to the bullshit that gets reported as financial news is groundless. He's not making up stories to explain things he doesn't understand (and may not be explainable).
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Re: And if you're trying to flirt with Robust Puppy you're in the wrong place

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whiff, original type.
Double whiff with a twist.
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