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Old 10-30-2012, 11:45 PM   #3661
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These guys want to denigrate Romney, but what they ignore is the polls show the glee they feel is not really translating to the voters. Are they in denial or ignorant, or both?
they know the electoral college vote. Who cares that Romney is winning the popular vote?
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Old 10-30-2012, 11:54 PM   #3662
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they know the electoral college vote. Who cares that Romney is winning the popular vote?
you think the ggg/gatti/adder goofing on how stupid the guy who is winning the popular vote right now is, is driven by an analysis of the electoral college vote?
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Old 10-31-2012, 12:26 AM   #3663
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If they're all full of shit, and they are in all aspects that matter, how can anyone vote any issue beyond taxes/jobs/economy?
Those are at least two different thing.

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Why would I vote Romney? Wrong question. Give me a pragmatic reason not to.
Because he best case scenario is that he does what he promises and blow the hell out of the budget leading to even higher future taxes.

The better case scenarios require believing he's a liar and you have special insight I to what he really thinks (you don't).
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Old 10-31-2012, 09:53 AM   #3664
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Point taken. However, you cannot call Missouri "national." it is, if I look at my map correctly, the dead center of the nation's large intestine. Which might be giving it an unwarranted compliment.
Don't need to, it's not merely Akin. This cycle, GOP national candidates are fleshing out a full basketball team on the subject, which Colbert has dubbed "Team Rape."
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they know the electoral college vote. Who cares that Romney is winning the popular vote?
Oh, the rape thing isn't about Romney.

(Well, I suppose it is to the extent that Romney is a placeholder for the national GOP, which is becoming populated with more true-blue, unpolished culture warriors. But other than that, no.)

Hank just wants to turn the conversation to a potential Won Popular Vote/Lost EV grudge which, if it turns out it's needed, Hank can nurse between now and 2016.
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Old 10-31-2012, 10:22 AM   #3666
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Point taken. However, you cannot call Missouri "national." it is, if I look at my map correctly, the dead center of the nation's large intestine. Which might be giving it an unwarranted compliment.
So you have been to Missouri. Diseased kidney?
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Old 10-31-2012, 10:39 AM   #3667
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We're all at heart, emotionally, Democrats. Then you realize, their math is almost as bad as the GOP's. Given that, the next rational considerations are: 1. Who'll help me more?, and 2. If I must support the fiscally insane, why not pick the more realistic (in law of nature terms)?

If they're all full of shit, and they are in all aspects that matter, how can anyone vote any issue beyond taxes/jobs/economy?

Why would I vote Romney? Wrong question. Give me a pragmatic reason not to.
A functioning and growing economy.

The Republicans respond, electorally, to the states that elected them. Look at what those states have for an economic engine, and I suspect it won't be what drives your practice.

I mean, I'm sure it's nice when Texans make money on oil, and not quite so nice when Walmart (or Atlanta-based Staples) opens another box, but he clearly knows squat about and isn't going to help the auto industry (especially given his current trashing from everyone involved with GM and Chrysler) and I promise you he knows very little and cares less about software or biotech.

Yeah, the Goldman Sachs guys are kinda pissed that they gave him oodles of dough and he still regulated them, but sometimes the medicine is for your own good.
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Old 10-31-2012, 10:40 AM   #3668
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you think the ggg/gatti/adder goofing on how stupid the guy who is winning the popular vote right now is, is driven by an analysis of the electoral college vote?
To be clear, Romney is very smart. I would not question his intelligence. He's just slimey and soulless.
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In fairness to Romney

I find the criticisms over his Ohio event yesterday a little strange.

They were going to have a political rally. Events beyond their control happened, and they decided to add disaster relief component to it. That's commendable.

Sure, it' not a very efficient way to do disaster relief, but they were having the rally anyway.
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We're all at heart, emotionally, Democrats. Then you realize, their math is almost as bad as the GOP's. Given that, the next rational considerations are: 1. Who'll help me more?, and 2. If I must support the fiscally insane, why not pick the more realistic (in law of nature terms)?

If they're all full of shit, and they are in all aspects that matter, how can anyone vote any issue beyond taxes/jobs/economy?

Why would I vote Romney? Wrong question. Give me a pragmatic reason not to.
If you vote out of pure self-interest, and you have money, and all you care about is your taxes, you should vote for Romney.

But the economy does better under Democrats.
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Old 10-31-2012, 11:48 AM   #3671
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To be clear, Romney is very smart. I would not question his intelligence. He's just slimey and soulless.
"Romney truly believes in his own abilities and — unlike George W. Bush, who was handed every professional success in his life — has justification for his confidence. He is a highly intelligent, accomplished individual."
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Old 10-31-2012, 12:18 PM   #3672
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We're all at heart, emotionally, Democrats. Then you realize, their math is almost as bad as the GOP's. Given that, the next rational considerations are: 1. Who'll help me more?, and 2. If I must support the fiscally insane, why not pick the more realistic (in law of nature terms)?

If they're all full of shit, and they are in all aspects that matter, how can anyone vote any issue beyond taxes/jobs/economy?

Why would I vote Romney? Wrong question. Give me a pragmatic reason not to.
How about: a vote for Romney is a vote for further economic disparity and a bigger deficit?
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Old 10-31-2012, 12:22 PM   #3673
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To be clear, Romney is very smart. I would not question his intelligence. He's just slimey and soulless.
It's not that he doesn't have a soul; it's that he's sold it to the Kochs.
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Old 10-31-2012, 12:30 PM   #3674
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Jonathan Chait: Obama is a great president.
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It's not that he doesn't have a soul; it's that he's sold it to the Kochs.
He would never sell his soul. Rent it, sure, but if you think you have him bought you're in for a surprise someday.
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