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11-05-2012, 04:36 PM
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11-05-2012, 05:27 PM
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Re: Top 20
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Nice to have you back.
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11-05-2012, 06:44 PM
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Re: this Avon would certainly not approve of
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I've never read LeCarre, but I thought Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy was an excellent flick. Why didn't you like it?
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One of the things I didn't like about it was that it really kind of wandered off away from the novels. They took story arcs from three different books and threw them together in a way that didn't make sense. The ending of the movie, where Smiley comes home to Ann, was a scene that came at the end of Tinker, Tailor, but it is almost forgotten by the time Smiley rises triumphant at the end of Smiley's People.
I also didn't like the way that Oldman played Smiley. He was too fastidious. He lacks both the desperation and the ruthlessness of the Smiley in the books. They could have made three great movies. Instead, they took major plot points out of three novels to cram into two hours dribs and drabs of some of the best cold war-era spy fiction ever written.
They also skipped over the class-driven relationships between the characters. By eliminating the backstories of Prideaux, Jerry Westerby, Ricky Tarr, and Peter Guillame, they laid waste to some of my favorite reading.
And, last but not least, there is Alec Guinness. His portrayal of George Smiley was head and shoulders above Gary Oldman's.
I realize a lot of this is fairly personal to me. I am not saying i was a bad movie. In fact, I watched it again yesterday instead of doing any writing. I wanted a full exposition of the trilogy in all of its shades of dark and light, with all of its texture. The movie they made was a Cliff's Notes version, and that is what disappointed me.
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11-06-2012, 12:42 PM
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Re: Stuck on Repeats
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11-06-2012, 01:38 PM
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Re: Stuck on Repeats
http://www.travelchannel.com/tv-shows/anthony-bourdain
Watch the Brooklyn episode of Bourdain's show. It was pretty fun- first he eats with Michael Willaims (Omar) who is actually pretty short. They run into a surprise guest star at a restaurant- then some other fun stuff-
Hank's ego Trivia- the sous chef at one of these places worked as a file clerk for me 10 years ago
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11-06-2012, 01:39 PM
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Re: Stuck on Repeats
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this is the kind of thing I'd expect if some of us socks could ever get on the bench. that and more of them masturbation pumps beneath the robes stuff.
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11-06-2012, 01:40 PM
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Re: this Avon would certainly not approve of
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wasn't that a long time ago? isn't there some limit on spoiler shelf-life?
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11-06-2012, 03:20 PM
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Re: this Avon would certainly not approve of
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wasn't that a long time ago? isn't there some limit on spoiler shelf-life?
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Being that I just watched all 5 seasons of The Wire this year, no. If someone would have spoiled that special scene with that special someone I would have gone snoop on them.
Because using that logic one can spoil anything based on the fact that some dweeb somewhere has read "Game of Thrones" or the "Walking Dead" comic books and people who are seeing the TV show fresh have no right to be surprised.
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11-06-2012, 04:22 PM
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11-06-2012, 04:27 PM
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Re: this Avon would certainly not approve of
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Originally Posted by Icky Thump
Being that I just watched all 5 seasons of The Wire this year, no. If someone would have spoiled that special scene with that special someone I would have gone snoop on them.
Because using that logic one can spoil anything based on the fact that some dweeb somewhere has read "Game of Thrones" or the "Walking Dead" comic books and people who are seeing the TV show fresh have no right to be surprised.
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at a dinner party Saturday we were discussing The Wire, and in particular how the President cited Omar as the best character in the show. A few people had not seen the series, and we described Omar, and a few "spoilers" were mentioned. This, even though we stongly suggested those people watch the show. Fuck if I'm wearing a filter for a show that old.
What scene were you talking about?
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11-06-2012, 05:46 PM
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Re: Stuck on Repeats
I knew nothing of this movie until I saw a preview a few days ago during a football game. But the i09 review makes me want to see it. :
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The Man With The Iron Fists isn’t bad if you imagine Russell Crowe wandered on set and decided to be in a movie.
Incidentally, this isn't too far from the truth. As reality would have it, Crowe (a main character in Iron Fists) spent all of ten days on set, channeling legendarily unhinged and deceased Wu-Tang Clan rapper Ol' Dirty Bastard. Said Robert "RZA" Diggs — the film's director and famed Wu-Tang producer — in the movie's press packet:
"My cousin's not here anymore, but I wanted his spirit in the film. Russell and I talked about it, and he loved the idea." The mysterious Jack Knife, an opium-addicted soldier enamored of China named for his weapon of choice, even has a signature jaw harp audio cue reminiscent of ODB's "Shimmy Shimmy Ya." Yes, we now live in a world in which Academy Award-winner Russell Crowe is making entrances to musical strains of "Ooh baby, I like it raw," eviscerating henchmen with a clockwork pistol/knife/chainsaw and undulating his mug like Kermit the Frog does when he's upset. This is definitely something that happened.
Later, he canoodles with a trio of brothel workers, sporting a pince-nez and some The Insider-ish body mass, an ensemble that gives him the mien of a stoned Benjamin Franklin. And after that, we see Crowe in the most vaudevillian fake Asian disguise since Sean Connery and his eyebrows went undercover in You Only Live Twice.
It's a performance on par with Nicolas Cage in Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans, the kind of performance where you can imagine the actor peering over the horizon and exclaiming, "What ho, I do believe they are making a motion picture over yon. Time to gesticulate like the talkies haven't been invented yet!"
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11-06-2012, 08:11 PM
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Re: this Avon would certainly not approve of
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski
at a dinner party Saturday we were discussing The Wire, and in particular how the President cited Omar as the best character in the show. A few people had not seen the series, and we described Omar, and a few "spoilers" were mentioned. This, even though we stongly suggested those people watch the show. Fuck if I'm wearing a filter for a show that old.
What scene were you talking about?
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This one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CshAkqlAj1o
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11-06-2012, 08:23 PM
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Re: this Avon would certainly not approve of
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski
at a dinner party Saturday we were discussing The Wire, and in particular how the President cited Omar as the best character in the show. A few people had not seen the series, and we described Omar, and a few "spoilers" were mentioned. This, even though we stongly suggested those people watch the show. Fuck if I'm wearing a filter for a show that old.
What scene were you talking about?
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That's different. It seems that the people you were talking to inquired which necessarily involved revealing information in response to that inquiry. It's not a spoiler if I ask you what happened.
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11-06-2012, 10:36 PM
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Re: this Avon would certainly not approve of
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isn't this a spoiler? I can't watch that again, just like I can't watch Sonny Corleone get it.
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11-07-2012, 02:02 PM
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Re: this Avon would certainly not approve of
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isn't this a spoiler?
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Is this going to be your new thing? Because I'm tired of it already.
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