Pepper sprayed for public safety.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Adder

Good. There is little worse that reelecting a crook just because he's from your party.

Though i note that since the crookedness involves an illegal offshore gambling operation, the Dem would probably get Less' support.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Adder

I'm not sure about Florida, but I don't think it is going to be close overall.

Eta: but closer than 2008.

I stand by Florida also. I think that's the surprise. Silver's wrong there.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

I'll reiterate: Romney loses Ohio. Obama's team brilliantly killed him (or he committed suicide) with his "Let GM go bankrupt" editorial. Ohio is filled with businesses dependent on the auto industry, and the average American voter doesn't understand that Obama, as Romney would have, also took GM through a bankruptcy of sorts... The only difference being Obama fucked bondholders and gifted the company to his union benefactors.

All Joe Sixpack in Ackron hears is, "bankrupt," and he knows that's bad, and that's as far as his analysis take him. Romney bad; Obama good.

Why Mitt penned that editorial I will never know. Dumbest political move in history.

The jeep ad was crazy, too. Jeep owners (I am one) are one of the largest and most devout cults in the country - bigger than Mormans by a good bit. Insult our cars, we will hunt you down to the ends of the earth and eat your organs before your eyes.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

Though i note that since the crookedness involves an illegal offshore gambling operation, the Dem would probably get Less' support.

The prohibition on gambling is illogical and indefensible. Violating a voidable law isn't proof of crookedness on any scale that matters.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

The jeep ad was crazy, too. Jeep owners (I am one) are one of the largest and most devout cults in the country - bigger than Mormans by a good bit. Insult our cars, we will hunt you down to the ends of the earth and eat your organs before your eyes.

If you're talking classic old convertible trucks, I'll take an International Harvester Scout over a Jeep any day of the week.

But I'm with you on the wood-panelled Grand Cherokees of old. Those things were beasts.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

I stand by Florida also. I think that's the surprise. Silver's wrong there.

It could happen.

I still sort of amazed about how lock-step the conservative machine is in insisting that all the data is wrong and this really is a close race.

I mean, I know that's their thing, but surely at least a few of them should value their credibility.

Or maybe most of them really aren't smart enough to see that there is nothing inconsistent about state-by-state polling showing an easy Obama victory and national polls showing a close race.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

I stand by Florida also. I think that's the surprise. Silver's wrong there.

Florida moved into the blue in Silver's model over the last 24 hours.

Oddly, Real Clear Politics' "No leanders" map came into line with Silver's model just before the model moved Florida. It is now the only state they disagree on.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

If you're talking classic old convertible trucks, I'll take an International Harvester Scout over a Jeep any day of the week.

But I'm with you on the wood-panelled Grand Cherokees of old. Those things were beasts.

Like all jeep owners, at heart I just want a Willy.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Adder

Speaking of stains, Argo was excellent.

Hey! Something I can respond to without losing my mind.

It was a good movie that held my attention the entire time. I don't know how I feel about Affleck's new acting style, which can only be labeled: Underacting. Although I do know that I hated his old, active acting style.

On another note, I'll tell you this. I was actively angry at the end of the movie. Creating that much tension and stress throughout the entire fucking movie apparently makes me angry by the time it's over.

TM

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

The jeep ad was crazy, too. Jeep owners (I am one) are one of the largest and most devout cults in the country - bigger than Mormans by a good bit. Insult our cars, we will hunt you down to the ends of the earth and eat your organs before your eyes.

what Jeep ad? Curiously, while he will lose Mi, being against the bailout may have helped him in Michigan. The UAW workers are dwindling, and there is a big bias against them from the rest of the mob.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

what Jeep ad?

The one about Chrysler being sold to an Italian company and then moving Jeep production to China.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

... I just want a Willy.

I was thinking the same thing at the polling station today, looking at two choices akin to "Prostate Exam, or Root Canal?" Where'd you go, Bubba? Why can't we have the 90s back again?

(In fairness, it wasn't as bad as looking at the Kerry v. Bush choice and thinking to myself, "Western civilization is probably coming to an end real soon.")

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

Florida moved into the blue in Silver's model over the last 24 hours.

Oddly, Real Clear Politics' "No leanders" map came into line with Silver's model just before the model moved Florida. It is now the only state they disagree on.

I'm still hearing people say, "The models the media use are all screwed up. Romney's going to win." I wonder how these people square the premise it's all media bias with even Fox News' analysts saying Obama's going to win.

[Sparklehorse]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

100 percent of the people polled in my office did NOT receive an "I voted" sticker this morning.

I got a sticker but had to wait in line for the first time since Clinton was president. It was still pretty quick though.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

I'll reiterate: Romney loses Ohio. Obama's team brilliantly killed him (or he committed suicide) with his "Let GM go bankrupt" editorial. Ohio is filled with businesses dependent on the auto industry, and the average American voter doesn't understand that Obama, as Romney would have, also took GM through a bankruptcy of sorts... The only difference being Obama fucked bondholders and gifted the company to his union benefactors.

All Joe Sixpack in Ackron hears is, "bankrupt," and he knows that's bad, and that's as far as his analysis take him. Romney bad; Obama good.

Why Mitt penned that editorial I will never know. Dumbest political move in history.

The difference between what Obama and what Romney wanted to do is that GM still exists. Romney wanted private funding and no government involvement, which would have killed it.

Romney wrote that editorial either because it was an uncontrollable fit of honesty or an opportunity to pander to the anti-government Tea Party zealots. Now he's rewriting history to claim that he was advocating something pretty close to what Obama actually did, but that's bullshit.

Joe Sixpack is absolutely right on this one. That Romney has to lie about what he proposed and, more recently, about Chrysler sending jobs to China confirms that he doesn't have a truthful argument on his side.