Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Did you read the article? It's a Radio Shack kit.

Didn't read it, because you link is dead, but so what?

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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

That he decided he was going to goad the school into arresting him by bringing in a bomb-like device

And even if that's what happened, again, so what? Like what the school and cops did was okay as long as he was trying to be Rosa Parks?

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

I don't what the kid was thinking, neither do you. Serious question, wasn't your kid on robotics? Did em make circuit boards or use old ones?

I was just surprised because the press was most certainly that the kid was this massively inventive kid- and of course, I was too lazy to even put together a kit so he is certainly not deserving of ridicule if all he did was that.

I am fairly confused about the point you're trying to make. It has to be one of the following two, I think:

1. He intentionally made a clock that looks like a bomb so that he could intimidate his teacher into thinking he may someday bring in an actual bomb.

2. He's not as creative as we were led to believe and he doesn't deserve the gifts he got from Microsoft, an invitation to the White House, or really much credit at all for whatever he put together.

If it's 1, I think you're a dumbass. If it's 2, I gotta wonder what that has to do with anything. Is the point you're making, as it relates to liberals, that we are so quick to credit someone who is being discriminated against that we don't stop to think whether they deserve it? Because that's silly. The point of all this is to let the boy (and others like him) know that there are lots of people in this country who aren't ignorant bigots and to support him in the face of small-minded hatred.

TM

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

So this morning we have Sarah Palin, Bill Maher, Richard Dawkins, and Michelle Bachman earnest defending Irving Texas.

Ahmed is clearly a hero.

Irving in what sense? I've made the call on more than one occasion to call law enforcement because of a perceived threat. Whether or not that perception was reasonable or not I didn't / don't really give a shit about. If someone feels threatened, I tell them to call the police.

After that, I think that the police were ridiculously unreasonable, as well as the administration. But the initial call? I guess I defend Irving too. And I'll do so with much more enthusiasm come January 1, when open carry in this state (and specifically my place of employment) becomes the law of this great state of idiots.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

I am fairly confused about the point you're trying to make.

This morning I argued for 4 hours in front of a Federal Judge and with two dogged subnormals. On this board I"m not always trying to "make points." I get tired of arguing. Sometimes I'm just trying to converse about an issue. Does everything here need to be an argument?

I just thought the deconstruction was interesting, and somewhat contradicted the impression I had from the initial reports.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

Irving in what sense? I've made the call on more than one occasion to call law enforcement because of a perceived threat. Whether or not that perception was reasonable or not I didn't / don't really give a shit about. If someone feels threatened, I tell them to call the police.

After that, I think that the police were ridiculously unreasonable, as well as the administration. But the initial call? I guess I defend Irving too. And I'll do so with much more enthusiasm come January 1, when open carry in this state (and specifically my place of employment) becomes the law of this great state of idiots.

Exactly. I think the initial "WTF is that?" was understandable, even required. I am in no position to say whether it was a bomb or a clock. From Facebook it appears Taxwonk is highly skilled and could have made the determination, but what if no one at the school had Taxwonk's tech skills? Wouldn't you want to have someone else look at it, and that would be someone who could determine what it was? Where it went overboard is arresting the kid, not questioning what the thing was.

[Hank Chinaski]

http://kfor.com/2015/09/21/oklahoma-...view_id=475112

I'm ambidextrous, so I'm often using my left hand, and it is sinister (by definition). Best story- one break I got a job at a window factory. Another guy and I got hired. I was assigned worked in a 6 foot square space assembling windows with a drill. The other guy got the stock job, meaning he drove a lift truck all around and could hide behind stacks of glass. The second day I told the sup the drills were all "right-handed" (no such thing actually) and I couldn't use them. I was swapped out to the stock job. Sweet sweet naps every day after that! Oh, so I did use it in an evil way.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

Irving in what sense? I've made the call on more than one occasion to call law enforcement because of a perceived threat. Whether or not that perception was reasonable or not I didn't / don't really give a shit about. If someone feels threatened, I tell them to call the police.

After that, I think that the police were ridiculously unreasonable, as well as the administration. But the initial call? I guess I defend Irving too. And I'll do so with much more enthusiasm come January 1, when open carry in this state (and specifically my place of employment) becomes the law of this great state of idiots.

This is a high school and he's a science nerd and someone's excited about circuit boards and wires? This is kind of like someone panicking in a hospital because a doctor has a scalpel. A tour of their computer lab would really frighten the shit out of these teachers.

FYI, if you want to worry about bombs in a high school, worry about kids with fluids in gatorade bottles. Those bombs are vastly easier to make than anything with wires and uses the explosive material most people have under their kitchen sink.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Exactly. I think the initial "WTF is that?" was understandable, even required. I am in no position to say whether it was a bomb or a clock. From Facebook it appears Taxwonk is highly skilled and could have made the determination, but what if no one at the school had Taxwonk's tech skills? Wouldn't you want to have someone else look at it, and that would be someone who could determine what it was? Where it went overboard is arresting the kid, not questioning what the thing was.

Of course, the police said they had determined it wasn't a bomb before they arrested him.

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

I just thought the deconstruction was interesting, and somewhat contradicted the impression I had from the initial reports.

There were a lot of early reports, which I thought were weird, that were talking about the clock and/or his abilities that seemed unlikely to pan out. They were especially weird because it didn't have to be some sort of groundbreaking scientific achievement to be a story.

But it's still fundamentally weird to go all Richard Dawkins on the fact that it was just a clock. Sorry, Dick, but that was not what the story was about.

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

From Facebook it appears Taxwonk is highly skilled and could have made the determination, but what if no one at the school had Taxwonk's tech skills?

Didn't his "engineering" (or whatever) teacher recognize it as just a clock?

Where it went overboard is arresting the kid, not questioning what the thing was.

Sure

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

This morning I argued for 4 hours in front of a Federal Judge and with two dogged subnormals. On this board I"m not always trying to "make points." I get tired of arguing. Sometimes I'm just trying to converse about an issue. Does everything here need to be an argument?

I just thought the deconstruction was interesting, and somewhat contradicted the impression I had from the initial reports.

Uh...Having a point doesn't necessarily mean you're arguing. I was trying to figure out what you were saying.

TM

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Adder

Didn't his "engineering" (or whatever) teacher recognize it as just a clock?

I haven't read as much as you probably have, but if so then it shouldn't have gone anywhere. And if, as GGG says, every geek is walking around with that much circuitry and this guy gets popped while Biff Smith is free to walk around wwith it, then that is also pretty fucked up.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

Uh...Having a point doesn't necessarily mean you're arguing. I was trying to figure out what you were saying.

TM

yesterday was a bad day in hank-land.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

yesterday was a bad day in hank-land.

Sorry to hear it, my friend.

TM