Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Sidd Finch

Part of me thinks that Christian leaders who know this is horseshit really have a responsibility to speak out against it. The person who wrote this isn't going to listen to you and me. Anyone who is disaffected, looking to Christianity, and at risk of being drawn to this sort of racist, bigoted, divisive and sick thinking -- such a person is only likely to be saved (not "SAVED" in the Jesus sense, but saved as in kept from being radicalized in this way) - by Christian leaders with the balls to step up and push back against this.

But part of me thinks that I should ask what color car she drives.

Why do you speak such words of hate?

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

I'm good with electing an adherent of one of those religions as well. I don't think we've had one since the early days of the Republic.

I do, but I don't think we've had one who is willing to admit it.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

This person is straight programmed. She is dimwitted silly putty. Whoever was in the room at the right moment molded her into someone who blindly follows whatever is said at her mega church and Fox News. If she grew up on the lower east side, she'd be a burnt out bongo drummer chaining herself to a tree in the latest local illegal community garden plot sold to a developer.

So, yeah. You're right. Christian leaders should fix her, but that shit ain't gonna happen. They need to be able to push that "cash out" button whenever they need a new G4.

TM

I don't think Christian leaders are going to fix her, anymore than I think Muslim leaders are going to fix ISIS recruits.

I think they are going to help the people, who are susceptible to such programming, avoid it.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally Posted by Adder

I do, but I don't think we've had one who is willing to admit it.

That's what a lot of people say about Obama, y'know.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Sidd Finch

That's what a lot of people say about Obama, y'know.

He's one of the people I had in mind. Along with Clinton. Perhaps H.W. Bush. Nixon.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Adder

He's one of the people I had in mind. Along with Clinton. Perhaps H.W. Bush. Nixon.

On Obama you're crazy.

Clinton views himself as worry of worship; he's more of a Hindu or Buddhist, religions where mortals can aspire to become at least a minor God. On Bush, you just need to get to know more Episcopalians. It's understandable you could mistake Episcopalianism for athiesm. Nixon, well, probably more of a Satanist, but we'll never know.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

On Obama you're crazy.

Okay. I'm sure that Obama doesn't think of himself as an atheist. Like any thinking human, I doubt he's terribly far from being agnostic, if at all.

[Adder]

The good news: less crying.

The bad news: almost certainly going to be worse than the old one.

The question: will he (certainly a he, right?) let them go sufficiently crazy that it will overcome the GOPs gerrymandering advantage? Is there a level of crazy with that outcome?

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Adder

The good news: less crying.

The bad news: almost certainly going to be worse than the old one.

The question: will he (certainly a he, right?) let them go sufficiently crazy that it will overcome the GOPs gerrymandering advantage? Is there a level of crazy with that outcome?

He needs to give one hell of a farewell/fuck you speech. His legacy should be the most epic so long you assholes rant ever.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Adder

Okay. I'm sure that Obama doesn't think of himself as an atheist. Like any thinking human, I doubt he's terribly far from being agnostic, if at all.

Now, now. Fundamentalist atheists are probably the most annoying and dangerous of all the fundies.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

Now, now. Fundamentalist atheists are probably the most annoying and dangerous of all the fundies.

Annoying, sure. Dangerous? Richard Dawkins has a heck of a long way to go to prove himself as dangerous as your typical faith. (yeah, I know, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot)

But I didn't say he was atheist. I said he's probably not terribly far from being agnostic. As in he'd at least be comfortable saying (privately), "yeah, I don't really know whether there's a god, but I choose to believe anyway."

Anyway, I don't really get the sense that faith and worship are particularly important to him. Which is a compliment.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Adder

Annoying, sure. Dangerous? Richard Dawkins has a heck of a long way to go to prove himself as dangerous as your typical faith. (yeah, I know, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot)

But I didn't say he was atheist. I said he's probably not terribly far from being agnostic. As in he'd at least be comfortable saying (privately), "yeah, I don't really know whether there's a god, but I choose to believe anyway."

Anyway, I don't really get the sense that faith and worship are particularly important to him. Which is a compliment.

So Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot were no big deal? Am I going to have to go back to the French Revolution and start working forward on this one?

Sure, if you call everyone who believes in God other than those of Wonk's friends who claim to have recently done a hand-jive with the Father, Son & Holy Ghost down at the bowling alley a "near agnostic", then he's a "near agnostic". You've just defined me as a near agnostic. Probably the Pope, too.

If you call everyone who can parse a syllogism a blackberry mojito, then Obama's also a blackberry mojito. Are you a blackberry mojito?

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

So Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot were no big deal?

If you think atheism was their defining feature, you are most definitely a blackberry mojito.

Am I going to have to go back to the French Revolution and start working forward on this one?

Speaking of the French Revolution, if you like history and podcasts, Revolutions is quite good.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Adder

If you think atheism was their defining feature, you are most definitely a blackberry mojito.

Adder, Adder, Adder.

Parse this through. Logically.

On another topic, is there even a semblance of comedy left to Bill Maher? Why do people still call him a comedian? It's just endless rants about anything Islamic, from a 14 year old kid on. The idea of "Bill Maher comedy" increasingly strikes me as kind of like the idea of "Fox News".

Also, I am finding myself contemplating the day when President Clinton appoints Obama as Chief Justice. I think that's about the only way to beat the joy of a Pope/Obama lovefest. Good times.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

Also, I am finding myself contemplating the day when President Clinton appoints Obama as Chief Justice.

That would be cool, but wouldn't it get in the way of his endless million-dollar-per speaking engagements?

TM