My God, you are an idiot. - Page 176

Tyrone Slothrop · 08-12-2011, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Secret_Agent_Man

Really?

S_A_M

Dear Lord, don't encourage them.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy · 08-12-2011, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

I just hope the Rs somehow get someone not totally insane, because to the bulk of the country Obama is starting to look unelectable.

You may not be watching the polling, but right now he beats all comers in head to head, and he beats that mythical generic republican. Also ahead in recent polling in key swings like North Carolina and Colorado.

I know you're a big Michelle Bachman fan yourself, but over the last three years, what Republican officeholders are you proud of?

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy · 08-12-2011, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by sgtclub

I watched 20 minutes of the debate tonight. Initial thoughts:

Romney: Ugg, too plastic and fake. Reminds me of an actor on NBC playing the president.

Paul/Cane: Side shows.

Gingrich: Smart, but too flakey. Not presidential.

Bachman: Palin 2.0

Santorum: Seems smart and sincere. Want to hear more, but I remember Sebby saying something about him that wasn't very positive.

Huntsman: Don't know much about him. Want to hear more. Seems like the only candidate I possibly could vote for. Probably not electable.

Huntsman is eminently electable in a general election, but there is no way in hell he survives a Republican primary. Republicans suffer from the fate Dems sufferred from in the 70s: a primary system that plays almost exclusively to the party faithful. Without more open primaries and ex-officio delegates who have to stand for election among the entire population, a guy like Huntsman is really running for VP.

Adder · 08-12-2011, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by sgtclub

I watched 20 minutes of the debate tonight. Initial thoughts:

Romney: Ugg, too plastic and fake. Reminds me of an actor on NBC playing the president.

Paul/Cane: Side shows.

Gingrich: Smart, but too flakey. Not presidential.

Bachman: Palin 2.0

Santorum: Seems smart and sincere. Want to hear more, but I remember Sebby saying something about him that wasn't very positive.

Huntsman: Don't know much about him. Want to hear more. Seems like the only candidate I possibly could vote for. Probably not electable.

I didn't see any of the debate, but most of that fits my expectations. The big divergence is Santorum. His history of comparing gay relationships to incest and "man on dog" sex and his history of fierce opposition to reproductive rights make him unacceptable, almost regardless of what else he says.

Adder · 08-12-2011, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Dear Lord, don't encourage them.

Yes, really

08-12-2011, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Icky Thump

so England, how's that austerity looking?

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/11/op...dows.html?_r=1

What they need to set things right is a party of cowboys and jesus freaks to come in and fix everything, guided by good old-fashioned common sense and the occasional word in the ear from God, which is luckily what we've got here, so we're saved. Or raptured. Same thing.

Hank Chinaski · 08-12-2011, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ironweed

What they need to set things right is a party of cowboys and jesus freaks to come in and fix everything, guided by good old-fashioned common sense and the occasional word in the ear from God,

this part was excellant.

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which is luckily what we've got here, so we're saved. Or raptured. Same thing.

This is called "stepping on your joke." You show that you don't trust your reader's intelligence with this bit. I mean we got the joke (you can PM the final part to Adder so he gets it too). Trust me I'm a published author and have had feedback from editors.

sebastian_dangerfield · 08-12-2011, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by sgtclub

I watched 20 minutes of the debate tonight. Initial thoughts:

Romney: Ugg, too plastic and fake. Reminds me of an actor on NBC playing the president.

Paul/Cane: Side shows.

Gingrich: Smart, but too flakey. Not presidential.

Bachman: Palin 2.0

Santorum: Seems smart and sincere. Want to hear more, but I remember Sebby saying something about him that wasn't very positive.

Huntsman: Don't know much about him. Want to hear more. Seems like the only candidate I possibly could vote for. Probably not electable.

The only coherent person on the stage was Gingrich.

The thing was an utter waste of time to watch, except for that one beautiful display where Gingrich beat the shit out of Chris Wallace.

ETA: Correction. Romney was coherent, and sleazy as hell in his pre-packaged dodges. Nice to see he didn't waste the last three years. Apparently, he spent them in law school.

Santorum's defense of a ban on abortions even in cases of rape was a new low. Disturbing. I now do not merely wish him to lose, but actually feel that, karmically, and for the betterment of the human race, some horrible accident should remove him from the planet entirely.

08-12-2011, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

this part was excellant.

This is called "stepping on your joke." You show that you don't trust your reader's intelligence with this bit. I mean we got the joke (you can PM the final part to Adder so he gets it too). Trust me I'm a published author and have had feedback from editors.

It must be nice having someone to check your spelling. Do these "editors" get paid a lot?

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy · 08-12-2011, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

The only coherent person on the stage was Gingrich.

The thing was an utter waste of time to watch, except for that one beautiful display where Gingrich beat the shit out of Chris Wallace.

ETA: Correction. Romney was coherent, and sleazy as hell in his pre-packaged dodges. Nice to see he didn't waste the last three years. Apparently, he spent them in law school.

Santorum's defense of a ban on abortions even in cases of rape was a new low. Disturbing. I now do not merely wish him to lose, but actually feel that, karmically, and for the betterment of the human race, some horrible accident should remove him from the planet entirely.

So who you going to support this time?

08-12-2011, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

Romney was coherent, and sleazy as hell in his pre-packaged dodges. Nice to see he didn't waste the last three years. Apparently, he spent them in law school.

I didn't watch it. What was he dodging? I am guessing his health care plan and Not Being The Right Kind Of Christian. I don't know what else he's got in his closet that Iowa wouldn't dig, except maybe that he's a Wall Street guy, but all I ever hear him talking about is how his business world experience is what sets him apart and I can't see him running from that.

Adder · 08-12-2011, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ironweed

I didn't watch it. What was he dodging? I am guessing his health care plan and Not Being The Right Kind Of Christian. I don't know what else he's got in his closet that Iowa wouldn't dig, except maybe that he's a Wall Street guy, but all I ever hear him talking about is how his business world experience is what sets him apart and I can't see him running from that.

He gets to explain why marriage is a federal question but health care must be leftbto the states. Probably has to dodge on abortion too. Wasn't he once pro choice?

Adder · 08-12-2011, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

So who you going to support this time?

By this time next year Obama will be the only moderate republican in the race.

Hank Chinaski · 08-12-2011, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ironweed

I didn't watch it. What was he dodging? I am guessing his health care plan and Not Being The Right Kind Of Christian. I don't know what else he's got in his closet that Iowa wouldn't dig, except maybe that he's a Wall Street guy, but all I ever hear him talking about is how his business world experience is what sets him apart and I can't see him running from that.

I know that as to our credentials here real world experience is seen as less important than blog reading, but it doesn't work that way in the real world.

Conf to Ironhead: see what I left out?

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy · 08-12-2011, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ironweed

I didn't watch it. What was he dodging? I am guessing his health care plan and Not Being The Right Kind Of Christian. I don't know what else he's got in his closet that Iowa wouldn't dig, except maybe that he's a Wall Street guy, but all I ever hear him talking about is how his business world experience is what sets him apart and I can't see him running from that.

Romney is usually dodging his support for whatever he opposes. Every now and then, like with healthcare, he opens up and admits he both supports and opposes it.