Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss. - Page 260

Adder · 03-09-2016, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sidd Finch

I do not believe she honestly thought it was a good idea, but she was afraid to stand on that.

I agree with Not Bob's positioning point, but I don't think it's accurate to say she was afraid. She made a strategic decision not to take a stand. That's a little different.

And it's a legitimate beef to have with her.

Pretty Little Flower · 03-09-2016, 02:51 PM

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And it's a legitimate beef to have with her.

Wait a second. How did you become the Arbiter of Beef Legitimacy? Well, if that's how it is, then tell me this: Kanye v. Wiz Khalifa -- legit?

SEC_Chick · 03-09-2016, 02:56 PM

This will surprise exactly no one, but I detest Hillary. I am pretty sure it is not because she is a woman.

Given the set of HRC, Obama, Pelosi, and Reid, I am unable to rank them in order of whom I dislike most. Nor am I able to even select one that I dislike even the tiniest bit less than the others. I dislike them all exactly equally, although for different reasons.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy · 03-09-2016, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SEC_Chick

This will surprise exactly no one, but I detest Hillary. I am pretty sure it is not because she is a woman.

Given the set of HRC, Obama, Pelosi, and Reid, I am unable to rank them in order of whom I dislike most. Nor am I able to even select one that I dislike even the tiniest bit less than the others. I dislike them all exactly equally, although for different reasons.

I have no idea how one can detest Obama.

Disagree with him, sure. But how can you not smile back when he smiles?

Pretty Little Flower · 03-09-2016, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Adder

I agree with Not Bob's positioning point, but I don't think it's accurate to say she was afraid. She made a strategic decision not to take a stand. That's a little different.

And it's a legitimate beef to have with her.

Miley v. Nicki?

ThurgreedMarshall · 03-09-2016, 04:55 PM

SEC_Chick · 03-09-2016, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

TM

There is a Donald Trump Has Tiny Hands PAC.

It is hilarious.

sebastian_dangerfield · 03-09-2016, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Adder

I agree with Not Bob's positioning point, but I don't think it's accurate to say she was afraid. She made a strategic decision not to take a stand. That's a little different.

And it's a legitimate beef to have with her.

The struggling want a magic bullet candidate who'll make everything better for them. She offers nothing but more of the current situation.

It's dumb for the Democrats to make this "America IS great!" argument. It's not, for about 60% of the country... many of whom are wavering Democrats.

If Trump hadn't alienated the Hispanic voters, Hillary would be in serious trouble. She's that piss poor of a candidate. Jeb in a pantsuit.

sebastian_dangerfield · 03-09-2016, 05:49 PM

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I agree.

That vote was far more important to me back in the 2008 primaries, and was a key part of why I supported Obama.

A long time has passed, and as you say she's gotten a lot of education.

And, really -- the choice between someone who voted for the Iraq war and acknowledges that was a mistake, and someone who wants to carpet-bomb cities where ISIS is active or resume torturing suspects or engaged in targeted killing of family members or.... well, you get the point.

She's going to be nearly neocon hawkish. Bill Kristol is already singing her praises. (Seriously.) The neocons know their fellow travelers. They want war, and she's been signaling she'll bring it for a long time.

sebastian_dangerfield · 03-09-2016, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

I have no idea how one can detest Obama.

Disagree with him, sure. But how can you not smile back when he smiles?

Because save a few sentencing guideline changes, he's been all talk on criminal justice reform. That's trading lives for votes.

Oliver_Wendell_Ramone · 03-09-2016, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SEC_Chick

There is a Donald Trump Has Tiny Hands PAC.

It is hilarious.

Portland-based!

Adder · 03-09-2016, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower

Miley v. Nicki?

I'm entirely unqualified to adjudicate pop music beefs.

Not Bob · 03-09-2016, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower

Miley v. Nicki?

I'll leave to Adder the issue of whether or not this is a legitimate beef, but I note that they both like to do cool things with their hair.

ETA: Oops, Adder punted. However, I did see that Ollie is here- perhaps he can answer your question.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy · 03-09-2016, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

It's dumb for the Democrats to make this "America IS great!" argument. It's not, for about 60% of the country... many of whom are wavering Democrats.

BUT America is GREAT - at least for those of us with normal hands and no other problem.

sebastian_dangerfield · 03-09-2016, 08:10 PM

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BUT America is GREAT - at least for those of us with normal hands and no other problem.

We fucking suck. Our only saving grace is being the least enflamed on a block of houses on fire.

Donald Trump is the GOP nominee, half the country's on food stamps, we're a bubble to bubble economy, and we've not only fucked ourselves but good, but also bungled numerous interventions in the Middle East, turning a contained situation into the mother of all clusterfucks.

Yeah, my life's fine, and so is yours. But it's like playing golf on a series of links stretched through a fucking landfill. Trump's wrong on nearly everything, but in terms of us sucking, he's deadly accurate.

A nation of service workers and their overclass of benefactors might suit some, but even this fuck-you-you're-on-your-own libertarian leaning voter finds that pretty fucking creepy.