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Old 02-02-2012, 07:24 PM   #841
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I assume his rights to the pension are governed under the CBA, which would have been negotiated by the unions.
Hmmm. Any other parties to that negotiation? Shouldn't you fuck them, too. And the horse they rode in on? Don't forget people who elected or appointed them. Come on, join the holy orgy everyone!
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Old 02-02-2012, 07:26 PM   #842
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Hmmm. Any other parties to that negotiation? Shouldn't you fuck them, too. And the horse they rode in on? Don't forget people who elected or appointed them. Come on, join the holy orgy everyone!
So you've googled and there was no admin hearing?
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Old 02-02-2012, 07:34 PM   #843
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So you've googled and there was no admin hearing?
Read the article, Hank; the ploy he used to save the pension was to quit before a firing could take effect, a ploy designed by the eminently fuckable lawyers. Now, what do you say to you and club challenging the fourth sutra in the Kama Sutras?
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Old 02-02-2012, 07:49 PM   #844
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I assume his rights to the pension are governed under the CBA, which would have been negotiated by the unions.
I'm guessing that a provision that says that, if an employee quits before being fired, he keeps any portion of his pension that is vested, was not subject to heavy dispute in the negotiation.
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Old 02-02-2012, 07:53 PM   #845
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Okay, but if you got fired tomorrow, your employer would not seize your 401(k) absent fraud on your behalf in obtaining it either. No matter how horrific a crime precipitated your firing.
I am not paid by tax dollars and I actually paid into my 401(k).
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Old 02-02-2012, 07:56 PM   #846
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I'm guessing that a provision that says that, if an employee quits before being fired, he keeps any portion of his pension that is vested, was not subject to heavy dispute in the negotiation.
It should have been. In an analogous context, any decent lawyer provides in an employment agreement that if an employee resigns, but the employer later finds out that cause existed, the for cause termination provisions apply.

So I'm on board with GGG, fuck the Teachers' Unions and the idiot government officials that negotiated the deal and picked stupid fucking lawyers just because they contributed to the campaign.
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Old 02-02-2012, 08:04 PM   #847
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I am not paid by tax dollars and I actually paid into my 401(k).
If you're paid by tax dollars you shouldn't have any right to keep the part of your compensation that goes to retirement savings? Apparently you're in favor of private property rights for everyone except government workers.
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Old 02-02-2012, 08:34 PM   #848
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It should have been. In an analogous context, any decent lawyer provides in an employment agreement that if an employee resigns, but the employer later finds out that cause existed, the for cause termination provisions apply.

So I'm on board with GGG, fuck the Teachers' Unions and the idiot government officials that negotiated the deal and picked stupid fucking lawyers just because they contributed to the campaign.
Fuck the lawyers, too. You and Hank, get down.

But, really, most of all, fuck this guy. Complain about the system and the players in it all you want, but this guy just really has earned a spot in any hell they can find for him.
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Old 02-02-2012, 09:06 PM   #849
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If you're paid by tax dollars you shouldn't have any right to keep the part of your compensation that goes to retirement savings? Apparently you're in favor of private property rights for everyone except government workers.
I'm in favor of property rights for anyone that is not a child abuser.
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Old 02-03-2012, 09:03 AM   #850
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I am not paid by tax dollars and I actually paid into my 401(k).
I would assume he paid in too.

But if your pay comes from tax dollars the your vested pension benefits are forfeit when you quit or get fired? I see how that would be satisfying here, but how does that make sense as a general rule?
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I would assume he paid in too.

But if your pay comes from tax dollars the your vested pension benefits are forfeit when you quit or get fired? I see how that would be satisfying here, but how does that make sense as a general rule?
Obviously, criminals ought to forfeit all their assets to the sovereign. As everyone in 16th century England knew, all personal assets are only held at the sufference of the sovereign anyways.

I'm on board with this. And I think its high time US Attorneys everywhere refocused their efforts to maximize forfeitures.
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Old 02-03-2012, 10:38 AM   #852
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Oh hell yeah! All aboard the OUTRAGE TRAIN!!!



Fucking teachers! They are always doing this shit!
 
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It's Science.

Since the Daily Mail is apparently the go-to paper on scientific issues like climate change, I assume that we'll all be able to agree on the findings of this featured study in today's edition. My condolences to all you idiots.
 
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Oh hell yeah! All aboard the OUTRAGE TRAIN!!!



Fucking teachers! They are always doing this shit!
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment...de-starred-in/

i didn't read Club's article, but a teacher got in trouble for giving kids semen to drink? It's California, maybe he was just trying to toughen them up for the reality TV industry?
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Old 02-03-2012, 11:10 AM   #855
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http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment...de-starred-in/

i didn't read Club's article, but a teacher got in trouble for giving kids semen to drink? It's California, maybe he was just trying to toughen them up for the reality TV industry?
I didn't read Club's article either, but it's pretty clear to me that TEACHERS UNIONS are MOLESTING CHILDREN all over the country with my TAX MONEY.
 
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