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		|  01-19-2009, 05:28 PM | #4081 |  
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					Originally Posted by taxwonk  Oh, wait.  Today's not Friday.  My bad. |  And I'm not Hank.
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					Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch  I don't know whether they "deserve" a puppy, but getting a puppy is admittedly an entirely different proposition from getting a dog, with its own costs and benefits.  And it's been a while since I had a dog of my own, but I think precious few trainers would recommend that a busy family with kids and lots of travel in their future who are first-time dog owners should get a rescue purebred.  A mutt puppy would be the sweet spot -- a dog that might otherwise be unwanted but is less likely to have a purebred's genetic flaws.  Puppy experience; less of the purebred's downsides.
 I think a Labradoodle is a designer mutt.  No idea whether it's in the sweet spot, but the name makes me TUALBIMM.
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		|  01-19-2009, 06:55 PM | #4083 |  
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					Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch  I don't know whether they "deserve" a puppy, but getting a puppy is admittedly an entirely different proposition from getting a dog, with its own costs and benefits.  And it's been a while since I had a dog of my own, but I think precious few trainers would recommend that a busy family with kids and lots of travel in their future who are first-time dog owners should get a rescue purebred.  A mutt puppy would be the sweet spot -- a dog that might otherwise be unwanted but is less likely to have a purebred's genetic flaws.  Puppy experience; less of the purebred's downsides.
 I think a Labradoodle is a designer mutt.  No idea whether it's in the sweet spot, but the name makes me TUALBIMM.
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The dog gods of the Zoraterists, purebreds or mutts?
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		|  01-19-2009, 08:39 PM | #4084 |  
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				QuintanaRoo., R.I.P.
			 
 
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					Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch    And it's been a while since I had a dog of my own, but I think precious few trainers would recommend that a busy family with kids and lots of travel in their future who are first-time dog owners should get a rescue purebred.  A mutt puppy would be the sweet spot -- a dog that might otherwise be unwanted but is less likely to have a purebred's genetic flaws.  Puppy experience; less of the purebred's downsides.
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 |  I knew a wildly genetically flawed purebred yellow labrador from a puppymill in Missouri. An at-that-time soon-to-be busy family who were first time dog owners became his owner. He survived being lead poisoned, epileptic (with seizures of a frequency of 10-12/hour for weeks), double hip dysplasia and hip recontruction surgery in his first 6 months of life, but, he had a good soul, was very loyal and ended up surviving to be a great friend and perfect (in lots of imperfect ways) pet for over 12 years....until this morning...he's missed.
 
In my experience any dog can be a great pet, its a large measure of what the people put into the relationship. I wish the Obamas luck and joy in the dog that they get.
 
			
			
			
			
			
			 
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		|  01-19-2009, 08:53 PM | #4085 |  
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					Originally Posted by Penske_Account  I knew a wildly genetically flawed purebred yellow labrador from a puppymill in Missouri. An at-that-time soon-to-be busy family who were first time dog owners became his owner. He survived being lead poisoned, epileptic (with seizures of a frequency of 10-12/hour for weeks), double hip dysplasia and hip recontruction surgery in his first 6 months of life, but, he had a good soul, was very loyal and ended up surviving to be a great friend and perfect (in lots of imperfect ways) pet for over 12 years....until this morning...he's missed. 
In my experience any dog can be a great pet, its a large measure of what the people put into the relationship. I wish the Obamas luck and joy in the dog that they get.
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		|  01-19-2009, 09:11 PM | #4086 |  
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					Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch  Besides, they probably weren't frozen.  This was NYC, not the Upper Peninsula. |  Sounds like a job for Mythbusters . |  
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		|  01-19-2009, 09:35 PM | #4087 |  
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				Re: QuintanaRoo., R.I.P.
			 
 
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					Originally Posted by Penske_Account  I knew a wildly genetically flawed purebred yellow labrador from a puppymill in Missouri. An at-that-time soon-to-be busy family who were first time dog owners became his owner. He survived being lead poisoned, epileptic (with seizures of a frequency of 10-12/hour for weeks), double hip dysplasia and hip recontruction surgery in his first 6 months of life, but, he had a good soul, was very loyal and ended up surviving to be a great friend and perfect (in lots of imperfect ways) pet for over 12 years....until this morning...he's missed. 
In my experience any dog can be a great pet, its a large measure of what the people put into the relationship. I wish the Obamas luck and joy in the dog that they get.
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		|  01-19-2009, 10:21 PM | #4088 |  
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				Re: QuintanaRoo., R.I.P.
			 
 
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					Originally Posted by Penske_Account  I knew a wildly genetically flawed purebred yellow labrador from a puppymill in Missouri. An at-that-time soon-to-be busy family who were first time dog owners became his owner. He survived being lead poisoned, epileptic (with seizures of a frequency of 10-12/hour for weeks), double hip dysplasia and hip recontruction surgery in his first 6 months of life, but, he had a good soul, was very loyal and ended up surviving to be a great friend and perfect (in lots of imperfect ways) pet for over 12 years....until this morning...he's missed. |  I'm sorry for your loss. It is an amazing privilege to have been master to, and companion of, a good dog. |  
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		|  01-20-2009, 02:03 AM | #4089 |  
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				Thanks all
			 
 I appreciate the nice words. Its harder than I thought it would be. 12 1/2 years is a long time, and of course with the reflection that death triggers comes reflection on everything the passing of such time has meant and resulted in. good. and. bad. 
 Of course, I wouldn't have traded him for any other. [sniff] [sob] [sigh]
 
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		|  01-20-2009, 08:34 AM | #4090 |  
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					Originally Posted by Penske_Account  I appreciate the nice words. Its harder than I thought it would be. 12 1/2 years is a long time, and of course with the reflection that death triggers comes reflection on everything the passing of such time has meant and resulted in. good. and. bad. 
 Of course, I wouldn't have traded him for any other. [sniff] [sob] [sigh]
 |  Losing a long-time pet is much harder thanyou can imagine if you haven't gone through it.  When my first cat died after 14 years, I was so upset I had to go home from work.  I used to think I saw her out of the corner of my eye.
 
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		|  01-20-2009, 08:40 AM | #4091 |  
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					Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch  A mutt puppy would be the sweet spot -- a dog that might otherwise be unwanted but is less likely to have a purebred's genetic flaws.  Puppy experience; less of the purebred's downsides.
 I think a Labradoodle is a designer mutt.  No idea whether it's in the sweet spot, but the name makes me TUALBIMM.
 |  But with allergies you can't get any old mutt puppy -- you have to get one that work with allergies.  That's why they're going with a Labradoodle -- a designer mutt (Labrador/poodle cross, hence the cutsie name) that people with allergies generally can have withotu getting sick.  That puts it in the sweet spot for them. |  
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		|  01-20-2009, 10:11 AM | #4092 |  
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				Inaugural fashion
			 
 Not my favorite of the outfits I've seen her wear.  It looks a little matronly for her.  And my "her" I mean Michelle.  Laura B. has always looked kind of matronly. |  
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					Originally Posted by notcasesensitive  How about them Cardinals?? |   Better question.  How does McNabb not complete that slant on 3rd and 10 with the game on the line?  What a ridiculously horrible pass.  Just pathetic.  If you can't complete that pass, you don't deserve to ever win a Superbowl.
 
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		|  01-20-2009, 10:59 AM | #4094 |  
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				Re: QuintanaRoo., R.I.P.
			 
 
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					Originally Posted by Penske_Account  I knew a wildly genetically flawed purebred yellow labrador from a puppymill in Missouri. An at-that-time soon-to-be busy family who were first time dog owners became his owner. He survived being lead poisoned, epileptic (with seizures of a frequency of 10-12/hour for weeks), double hip dysplasia and hip recontruction surgery in his first 6 months of life, but, he had a good soul, was very loyal and ended up surviving to be a great friend and perfect (in lots of imperfect ways) pet for over 12 years....until this morning...he's missed. 
In my experience any dog can be a great pet, its a large measure of what the people put into the relationship. I wish the Obamas luck and joy in the dog that they get.
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So sorry man.  I'm glad that you and he had a long and happy time together.
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		|  01-20-2009, 11:05 AM | #4095 |  
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					Originally Posted by Fugee  Not my favorite of the outfits I've seen her wear.  It looks a little matronly for her.  And my "her" I mean Michelle.  Laura B. has always looked kind of matronly. |  has Michelle gained weight since the election, or is it the angle?
 
also, at the risk of being hurtful, and I apologize if I'm wrong, but I don't believe Penske had a dog. I think he is just trying to curry favor, and get back in people's good graces.
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