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[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

I hate this kind of argument. The Patriots were up big. You can't tell me that the touchdown given up when the Pats were up 20 should be compared to the stand they had to make at the end of the game. If you can't count on your defense to hold another team for another 80 yard drive when the game is on the line, then why wouldn't you always go for it with 3 yards or less on 4th down? And, given your argument, at what spot on the field should he have not gone for it? On the 20? On the 10? The 1 yard line? According to you (and the yards per pass or rush you quoted), the gamble is the same, no?

TM

i don't get this either. those two teams are playing to get to the superbowl, every year, not to win or not win a game in November.

what the call says is I don't trust my defense, and it will still say that come late December and January. and if he defense can't make a stop he ain't going anywhere anyway.

[Gattigap]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

I hate this kind of argument. The Patriots were up big. You can't tell me that the touchdown given up when the Pats were up 20 should be compared to the stand they had to make at the end of the game. If you can't count on your defense to hold another team for another 80 yard drive when the game is on the line, then why wouldn't you always go for it with 3 yards or less on 4th down? And, given your argument, at what spot on the field should he have not gone for it? On the 20? On the 10? The 1 yard line? According to you (and the yards per pass or rush you quoted), the gamble is the same, no?

No.

I don't know how anyone looks at his decisions at the end of the game without thinking they were exceedingly stupid.

Okay.

[str8outavannuys]

Thanks for the rousing welcome.

What did I miss?

Have my reasons for leaving been discussed and deconstructed and documented?

Up for partner in a few weeks. Wish me luck.

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by str8outavannuys

Thanks for the rousing welcome.

Up for partner in a few weeks. Wish me luck.

What's a partner?

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Gattigap

No.

The question is, where on the field does the ball have to be for it to be a bad decision? You don't think the 30 yard line is too close. I might be okay with him making the decision (with a different play called) on the Colts' 45 (mmmmmm). I guess you're saying the risk is too great to make that call if you're closer than 28 yards out. If that's what you believe, I'm just wondering how close is too close in your opinion.

Originally Posted by Gattigap

Okay.

Don't get testy. If we can't argue over sports, what's left?

TM

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

The question is, where on the field does the ball have to be for it to be a bad decision? You don't think the 30 yard line is too close. I might be okay with him making the decision (with a different play called) on the Colts' 45 (mmmmmm). I guess you're saying the risk is too great to make that call if you're closer than 28 yards out. If that's what you believe, I'm just wondering how close is too close in your opinion.

Definitely somewhere across midfield, where a punt is likely to net only 20-30 yards. What's remarkable is that 5 years ago Bellicheck was in Peyton's head, and Manning couldn't solve anything Bellicheck did. Now it's the other way around--Bellichek is afraid of Manning regardless. If the Colts fans were sharper, they would have started in with a "Who's Your Daddy?" chant.

ETA: Here's the clearest analysis of whether the decision made sense, and this guy says "yes". He also notes that the third-down pass was more misguided if the plan was to go for it anyway.

Don't get testy. If we can't argue over sports, what's left?

TM

Tits!

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally Posted by str8outavannuys

Thanks for the rousing welcome.

What did I miss?

Have my reasons for leaving been discussed and deconstructed and documented?

Up for partner in a few weeks. Wish me luck.

Oddly no. More discussion of whether you were Thrashers Fan.

[John Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

What's a partner?

The guys with cruiseliners in their names.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by str8outavannuys

Thanks for the rousing welcome.

What did I miss?

Have my reasons for leaving been discussed and deconstructed and documented?

Up for partner in a few weeks. Wish me luck.

We assumed you left because your feelings were hurt, you wussy, but if you'd like to post a rampage now detailing all the ways you were wronged and the flaws and sexual pecadillos of each other poster on the board, please, feel free.

[evenodds]

Lesson from the weekend: two strong cocktails in an hour is all I need to tell you all about my sex life.

Related: if you ask me direct questions, I will answer.

Now, we all know how each couple does or does not prevent pregnancy, what everyone thinks is a non-Vanilla activity, and that my friends are surprisingly prudish.

Last lesson: a man should never use the word "buttsex." It just makes you look ridiculous and sexually inexperienced.

[Not Bob]

Originally Posted by str8outavannuys

Thanks for the rousing welcome.

What did I miss?

I now listen to Belle & Sebastian, and regret that I had not started doing so when you first mentioned them.

And the Ducks are apparently no longer Mighty. My friend the Giggy fan from the OC told me that.

[dtb]

Originally Posted by evenodds

Last lesson: a man should never use the word "buttsex." It just makes you look ridiculous and sexually inexperienced.

Is "ass fucking" the phrase for the somber and experienced?

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by dtb

Is "ass fucking" the phrase for the somber and experienced?

I think E/O refers to the act as "raving".

[evenodds]

Originally Posted by dtb

Is "ass fucking" the phrase for the somber and experienced?

Anal would have been fine.

"Buttsex" sounds too much like "eewww, buttsex," as uttered by a 13 year old boy.

I understand people have different interests, kinks, and proclivities, but discuss it like a grownup.

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

I think E/O refers to the act as "raving".

Cleaving.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by evenodds

Cleaving.

Whatever happened to Chef?