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Old 01-09-2010, 03:06 PM   #1111
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Lester is correct. ... a competitive disadvantage in the marketplace of ideas.
You got lost there somewhere, unless you believe in the utility of a marketplace of unprovable and inherently suspect ideas. A marketplace of fallacies. A place where phrenology battles against bloodletting. A Thunderdome of idiocies. A cockfight among lesbians.
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Old 01-09-2010, 07:34 PM   #1112
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You got lost there somewhere, unless you believe in the utility of a marketplace of unprovable and inherently suspect ideas. A marketplace of fallacies. A place where phrenology battles against bloodletting. A Thunderdome of idiocies. A cockfight among lesbians.
Atheism is a competitor in the marketplace of ideas. It probably has many features to recommend it but faces steep import tariffs in Malaysia. FWIW, I am not protectionist -- I believe we as a country and culture go way too far in privileging religious thought over other thoughts. I think it's an embarassment that we have a bureau dedicated to religious freedom abroad. I do not think American interests are much advanced by having a policy of promoting religious freedom (whatever that means) abroad. I suspect it is a Bush-era initiative that Obama dare not reverse, and that's a shame.
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A cockfight among lesbians.
Fwiw, I have seen all-women pornos were the lady-lovers strap on strap-ons and engage in some playful sword play, and can endourse both the concept and the product.
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Old 01-10-2010, 09:13 AM   #1114
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Atheism is a competitor in the marketplace of ideas. It probably has many features to recommend it but faces steep import tariffs in Malaysia. FWIW, I am not protectionist -- I believe we as a country and culture go way too far in privileging religious thought over other thoughts. I think it's an embarassment that we have a bureau dedicated to religious freedom abroad. I do not think American interests are much advanced by having a policy of promoting religious freedom (whatever that means) abroad. I suspect it is a Bush-era initiative that Obama dare not reverse, and that's a shame.
is the absence of a thought an idea? it seems to me "I never thought about it" is the most rational response, and that atheism (and whatever less's position is called) are all just flavors of religion.

give me my "know-nothing" stance and I'm happy- then as to whatever bureau you're talking about, I stake out the position "I don't know why they have it so how could I have an opinion on whether they should have it."

Then that opinion on that bureau can sit right next to my position on the Bureau of Weights and Measures.
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Fwiw, I have seen all-women pornos were the lady-lovers strap on strap-ons and engage in some playful sword play, and can endourse both the concept and the product.
are you talking about that home movie slave shot of paigow and her sister?
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are you talking about that home movie slave shot of paigow and her sister?
You realise her sister still lurks and occasionally posts on this board?



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Caught this movie on Friday. Basically the whole story is just a delivery device for the technology behind this movie. It's not a boring story and it's not a memorable one. Visually, it is amazing. Saw it in Imax 3-D. Anybody else see it? Would love to know what people think.

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Caught this movie on Friday. Basically the whole story is just a delivery device for the technology behind this movie. It's not a boring story and it's not a memorable one. Visually, it is amazing. Saw it in Imax 3-D. Anybody else see it? Would love to know what people think.

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While the 3D and special effects were enjoyable, I can't believe that with a 500 Million budget they couldn't spend just a few grand on the writing.
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Caught this movie on Friday. Basically the whole story is just a delivery device for the technology behind this movie. It's not a boring story and it's not a memorable one. Visually, it is amazing. Saw it in Imax 3-D. Anybody else see it? Would love to know what people think.
Haven't seen it, but it sounded like David Brooks nailed it (n.b. - spoilers).
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Caught this movie on Friday. Basically the whole story is just a delivery device for the technology behind this movie. It's not a boring story and it's not a memorable one. Visually, it is amazing. Saw it in Imax 3-D. Anybody else see it? Would love to know what people think.

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You captured it well.

I would add is that despite the length of the movie, it did not seem long. Cameron did a good job of keeping the story on track.

Also, the 3-D was well used, not childish. It really added depth to the picture.
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It would be interesting to know why they think that.
The Qu'ran is viewed as quite literally the word of Allah, put into Mohammed's mouth by Allah. It is a "recitation" that is not supposed to be translated. For that reason, the Arabic of the Qu'ran is viewed as itself divine.

However, I've never heard of the notion that there should not be translations into Arabic from other languages that use Qu'ranic words, including Allah. I'm betting this is a theory developed by some folks who only use Arabic for religious study and instruction, and use another language in day to day life. Otherwise, those who actually speak only Arabic would pretty much be cut off from the outside world.
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are you talking about that home movie slave shot of paigow and her sister?
The old one or the new one in 3D?
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Haven't seen it, but it sounded like David Brooks nailed it (n.b. - spoilers).
I assume David Brooks has original thoughts to express from time to time. The linked article should not be used to support that assumption.
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I assume David Brooks has original thoughts to express from time to time. The linked article should not be used to support that assumption.
Besides, he only focused on one subset of the cliches. There were more. As every 9 year old in America knows.
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You captured it well.

I would add is that despite the length of the movie, it did not seem long. Cameron did a good job of keeping the story on track.

Also, the 3-D was well used, not childish. It really added depth to the picture.
We're planning on seeing it this week sometime at the IMAX screen. My understanding is that it's something you generally HAVE to see in the theater to get the full experience.
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