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Old 11-04-2016, 08:06 PM   #1891
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Abso-fucking-lutely.
And yet I have a twenty something college educated female relative in New England who is the biggest and most active Trump apologist/Hillary basher on my wife's Facebook feed.

I expect it from my knuckle headed cousins (mostly cops and blue collar union guys) in the Ancestral Homeland, but from her? Strange.
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Old 11-04-2016, 08:08 PM   #1892
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Neither you nor I can litigate the facts regarding the Foundation. There is new information. Maybe something; maybe nothing. That nothing stuck in the past does not prove the absence of something emerging.
"There is new information." You mean, that the FBI is full of Trump fans with so little regard for their government service that they are using their office to further their own political preferences? The Foundation has been heavily, heavily investigated, and no one has come up with anything. Any. Thing.

For some reason, the Clintons operate under special media rules where people -- reporters, editors -- cast away skepticism and presume the worse. You have soaked it up. What's the scandal? The Clinton Foundation raises a lot of money and spends it on treating AIDS in the Third World. (Compare that to whatever W has done since he left the White House -- doesn't Bill look a little better? They are fine watercolors, though.) Lots of people have spent lots of time looking into the notion that, as Secretary of State, HRC did something to favor donors. No one has found anything. It's not like there is a huge secret about what she did as Secretary of State, between the press coverage and FOIA. It's not like her emails, and her staffs, haven't been leaked exhaustively. And still, nothing.

But you say there's new information. There's a sucker born every minute too.
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Old 11-04-2016, 08:09 PM   #1893
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It's worse than that. If he wins, he'll also be dragged thru endless investigations. And possibly impeached for God knows what.
If he wins, a GOP Congress is not going to spend time investigating him. I don't disagree that he might get impeached, but it's only because he is so very reckless and self-serving, and because I can imagine Republicans wanting to get rid of him before 2020.
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Old 11-04-2016, 11:46 PM   #1894
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Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...tein-5964.html

Pa in play. Anyone in Pa we know that might decide to vote for reality?
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Old 11-05-2016, 07:38 AM   #1895
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Pa in play. Anyone in Pa we know that might decide to vote for reality?
Lot of people in Philly can't vote because of SEPTA strike.
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Old 11-05-2016, 05:35 PM   #1896
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Starting to look into

Just in case

http://www.lpab.justice.nsw.gov.au/D...sion%202.0.pdf
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Old 11-05-2016, 08:41 PM   #1898
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page 22, you have to be proficient in English We gotta leave adder behind?
Actually, unwritten you have to be under 50, unless you just have dough and want to retire.
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Old 11-06-2016, 10:48 AM   #1899
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"There is new information." You mean, that the FBI is full of Trump fans with so little regard for their government service that they are using their office to further their own political preferences? The Foundation has been heavily, heavily investigated, and no one has come up with anything. Any. Thing.
It is amazing to me that after 20 years of evidence with no evidence and a lot of hype, people still believe every new bit of hype suggesting that maybe - maybe - there might be enough evidence to "indict".

Remember, we're all lawyers here, we know it's possible to indict a ham sammich. And in 20 years they haven't found enough.

Before anyone goes but...but....but... what about the russian uraniam, or Vince Foster's nanny.... please check those 100+ entries on Snopes disabusing people.
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Not this CLINTON. But yes -- there's sexism in this as well. I just don't see near as much of that as I do Clinton hatred.

The behavior that got her and Bill where they are is the problem.
What is, things White Men tell themselves
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Old 11-07-2016, 11:56 AM   #1901
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If it's any consolation, most of the Trumpkins seem focused more on her last name than her sex.
After all the discussion we've had you're still buying this type of crap??

And I really don't care who you vote for, but "I don't care because me and mine will be insulated from the damage" is a trash opinion.

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That I'm getting shit for not voting for Hilary.
No, you're getting shit for being selfish ass.
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Old 11-07-2016, 12:02 PM   #1903
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No, you're getting shit for being selfish ass.
What is the action or inaction in relation to voting that makes me a selfish ass?
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Old 11-07-2016, 12:03 PM   #1904
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Lot of people in Philly can't vote because of SEPTA strike.
She's still going to kill it in PA. People forget about Pittsburgh. And Philly proper is less important than the counties around it which are all traditional moderate Republicans voting for HRC.

I think he loses PA by 7 points.
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"There is new information." You mean, that the FBI is full of Trump fans with so little regard for their government service that they are using their office to further their own political preferences? The Foundation has been heavily, heavily investigated, and no one has come up with anything. Any. Thing.

For some reason, the Clintons operate under special media rules where people -- reporters, editors -- cast away skepticism and presume the worse. You have soaked it up. What's the scandal? The Clinton Foundation raises a lot of money and spends it on treating AIDS in the Third World. (Compare that to whatever W has done since he left the White House -- doesn't Bill look a little better? They are fine watercolors, though.) Lots of people have spent lots of time looking into the notion that, as Secretary of State, HRC did something to favor donors. No one has found anything. It's not like there is a huge secret about what she did as Secretary of State, between the press coverage and FOIA. It's not like her emails, and her staffs, haven't been leaked exhaustively. And still, nothing.

But you say there's new information. There's a sucker born every minute too.
Moot now.
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