I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.

[Replaced_Texan]

Also, this is not comforting: http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/tru...res-1788949997

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

This is insightful. https://hbr.org/2016/11/what-so-many...-working-class

Agreed -- I saw that too, and was about to post it here.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

I care about about a number of things. But if neither candidate is offering a reasonable mix of what I want, and in this race neither of them even came close, then I don't care who wins. Why is this so difficult for you to grasp?

When you say you don't care who wins, I don't believe you, and would think you are experiencing cognitive failure if you really did think that.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

When you say you don't care who wins, I don't believe you, and would think you are experiencing cognitive failure if you really did think that.

I believe him.

Sebby loves nothing more than to sit at the country club and view himself as one of the real salt of the earth, Sarah-bear (remember when he spent a couple days arguing how smart she was) lovin 'mercans. You know, a moron.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

I believe him.

Sebby loves nothing more than to sit at the country club and view himself as one of the real salt of the earth, Sarah-bear (remember when he spent a couple days arguing how smart she was) lovin 'mercans. You know, a moron.

That just suggests that he's with the Donald.

If he's the kind of libertarian who really cares about his taxes, and pays lip service to the other stuff, then he should support Trump, who will cut taxes for rich people.

If he's the kind of libertarian who cares about threats to liberty, like the undermining of the rule of law and the First Amendment, then he should have supported Hillary, because duh.

Et cetera.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

Being in the police is one of the few good jobs open to Americans without a college education.

I don't even think that's factually true. I thought DC required a college degree, but apparently it's 60 hours of college credits, military or three year experience elsewhere. Looks like Minneapolis requires at least a two year degree, although there's reciprocity for military and outstate.

Anyway, even being a cop doesn't excuse you from needing some education.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

So back in April, in an op-ed in the Washington Post, there was a suggestion to appoint Merrick Garland without the Senate's rigmarole. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...301_story.html

There were lots of "no he can't" responsive Op-Eds. (See: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-does-nothing/ and https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ate/?tid=a_inl)

But why the hell not? I mean he can do it, they can sue, it goes to the Supreme Court.

I didn't read the responses, but three thoughts: (1) what's to stop the Senate from taking a formal vote to reject Garland in the face of the deadline? Filibuster?, (2) why would John Roberts seat him?, and (3) Why would the Roberts court ultimately uphold the gambit (bit of a luck of the draw on the lower court, I supposed, should it wind up 4-4).?

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

When you say you don't care who wins, I don't believe you, and would think you are experiencing cognitive failure if you really did think that.

I believed we needed some form of change. The economy is not delivering for enough people. But I did not hear a message of change from Trump. I heard incoherence. (Normally, I'd be sympathetic to a "shake it up" type like Trump, but he was just too fucking nuts and dumb for my taste.)

I get the argument that Hillary was the safer bet, as she's probably closer to what I sought than Trump.

Had Trump said he planned a 1 trillion infrastructure build using P3s, I'd have considered him more seriously. That's actually a great idea. But he didn't do that. He rambled like a lunatic about sex tapes, or his hands. And Hillary just offered more of the same old same old, which, if you make any of your money servicing middle class people, from which a good bit of my household income is derived, and you work for yourself, which my wife and I mostly do, is problematic.

She was a vote for stagnation; he was a vote for who knows what the fuck. It was impossible for me to care much either way.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

I believed we needed some form of change. The economy is not delivering for enough people. But I did not hear a message of change from Trump. I heard incoherence. (Normally, I'd be sympathetic to a "shake it up" type like Trump, but he was just too fucking nuts and dumb for my taste.)

I get the argument that Hillary was the safer bet, as she's probably closer to what I sought than Trump.

Had Trump said he planned a 1 trillion infrastructure build using P3s, I'd have considered him more seriously. That's actually a great idea. But he didn't do that. He rambled like a lunatic about sex tapes, or his hands. And Hillary just offered more of the same old same old, which, if you make any of your money servicing middle class people, from which a good bit of my household income is derived, and you work for yourself, which my wife and I mostly do, is problematic.

She was a vote for stagnation; he was a vote for who knows what the fuck. It was impossible for me to care much either way.

Congratulations! You are going to get change.

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

Yes you can.

TM

Thank you! I will. I am definitely enjoying the new Tribe. My current favorite moment from the album is the Phife Dawg line from the song "The Donald":

"Off top on the spot, no reading from your Whackberry"

Pretty sure this is a posthumous Drake dis! Back in the day, Drake was supposedly freestyling on Hot 97 when a picture showed he was actually reading lines from his Blackberry. Drake likes his battles, but if I were him, I would leave this shit alone. Anyway, the Daily Dose is the Nite-Liters with "Get Back Buddy." Seriously, get back buddy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPpn4PkH-Qo

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

Congratulations! You are going to get change.

DC will geld this crazy fuck as it has all the rest. He's already behaving like a centrist on most issues.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

That just suggests that he's with the Donald.

If he's the kind of libertarian who really cares about his taxes, and pays lip service to the other stuff, then he should support Trump, who will cut taxes for rich people.

If he's the kind of libertarian who cares about threats to liberty, like the undermining of the rule of law and the First Amendment, then he should have supported Hillary, because duh.

Et cetera.

Please don't assert she was a better choice in terms of liberty. I'd rather dance with an anti-First Amendment fool who doesn't understand libel law than a viper at the helm of a crowd of people who believe they're data-mining the proles for the proles' own good.

You had no choice of liberty in this election. An amateur lunatic will go too far in his authoritarian aims and fall on his face in the attempt to pull off an Orwellian result. A pro will take a page from Huxley and further steal our liberties on the sly.

These two were all about Control. You couldn't have picked a better ad against individual freedom than Donald and Hillary side by side if you tried. The only person who concerned me more than either of them is Pence. At least they're nihilists. Pence is on a mission. And it's biblical.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

Please don't assert she was a better choice in terms of liberty. I'd rather dance with an anti-First Amendment fool who doesn't understand libel law than a viper at the helm of a crowd of people who believe they're data-mining the proles for the proles' own good.

You had no choice of liberty in this election. An amateur lunatic will go too far in his authoritarian aims and fall on his face in the attempt to pull off an Orwellian result. A pro will take a page from Huxley and further steal our liberties on the sly.

These two were all about Control. You couldn't have picked a better ad against individual freedom than Donald and Hillary side by side if you tried. The only person who concerned me more than either of them is Pence. At least they're nihilists. Pence is on a mission. And it's biblical.

Trump's disdain for the rule of law is plain, and he has already started to go after the press. I don't understand what threat you think Hillary posed to liberty. Whatever the NSA would have done to intrude on you under her, it's not like they're going to back off because he's in charge.

[greatwhitenorthchick]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

DC will geld this crazy fuck as it has all the rest. He's already behaving like a centrist on most issues.

By appointing a racist, misogynist, anti-semitic (trifecta!) fuckhead as his policy advisor. Yeah.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

Please don't assert she was a better choice in terms of liberty.

I say this for your own good. Cut back on the booze. And stop falling asleep in front of fox news.