I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.

[Not Bob]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

Anything is better than San Diego.

My friend, maybe we have been to different San Diegos. No love for the Coronado? For shame.

Apropos of no love, I cannot believe that the amusing line from Cheech & Chong's* "Born in East L.A." I used received, well, no love. Don't say that I should have gone with the tacky and arguably offensive "It's No Fun Being An Illegal Alien" from the Not Peter Gabriel era of Genesis, please.

*Dave's not here, man.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Not Bob

My friend, maybe we have been to different San Diegos. No love for the Coronado? For shame.

Apropos of no love, I cannot believe that the amusing line from Cheech & Chong's* "Born in East L.A." I used received, well, no love. Don't say that I should have gone with the tacky and arguably offensive "It's No Fun Being An Illegal Alien" from the Not Peter Gabriel era of Genesis, please.

*Dave's not here, man.

I have had a couple stops at the Del over the years, which does have a certain charm as a sort of formerly nice but now bordering on seedy setting invoking thoughts of The Fabulous Baker Boys.

Meh.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

I have had a couple stops at the Del over the years, which does have a certain charm as a sort of formerly nice but now bordering on seedy setting invoking thoughts of The Fabulous Baker Boys.

Meh.

Where I live it snows. We go to a beach each February and I can run on a beach. Staying at the Del. I'll take bordering on seedy, but not 10 degrees.

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

alright alright- so speaking of borders, I have never been to Mexico, but I'll be in San Diego next month. Is there anything at all to going to Tijuana, or is it just ugly border city?

It's like eating dinner in a nice place, then digging for dessert in the dumpster.

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

Anything is better than San Diego.

Not Tijuana. That's like saying nothing is worse than an asshole in the face, then seeing an asshole with a pus boil.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

It's like eating dinner in a nice place, then digging for dessert in the dumpster.

So I'm saying cross the border, can say I was in Mexico once. But no benefit beyond that? I really do not need to see a purely gross city.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

I'd be interested to know how long it's been going on since it seems like something that would be happening based on the change in political climate brought on by the fucking moron we will all soon be regretting we didn't do more to stop.

TM

I suspect it's happening because ICE needs to make internal quotas and look busy, and because they can, and because ICE is pretty insulated from political pressure, and because the kind of people of people who are affected have little political clout. And because of a bad Supreme Court decision that gets rid of the Fourth Amendment in much of the country.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

It looks like at least 5 years, maybe longer, and that the Border Patrol has a real thing for Rochester, Syracuse, and a few other places, where it stakes out bus stops and airports to harass foreign students or people who might be foreign students.

Based on what I can figure out, this not being my area, or even anywhere near my area, is that the best case against these bozos is that they are targeting based on racial profiling. I'd love to get some nice students down to the bus stations to monitor the Border Patrol's activities.

If the Fourth Amendment doesn't apply near the border, not sure why the Equal Protection Clause would.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

Not Tijuana. That's like saying nothing is worse than an asshole in the face, then seeing an asshole with a pus boil.

Well, so the second is at least might have some medical interest.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

So I'm saying cross the border, can say I was in Mexico once. But no benefit beyond that? I really do not need to see a purely gross city.

Mexico is a great, diverse and fascinating country. This would kind of like a Mexican saying they had been in the US because they crossed over to San Diego, or had a layover in the Detroit airport.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

If the Fourth Amendment doesn't apply near the border, not sure why the Equal Protection Clause would.

This case appears to be the reason.

But again, not my area, so if any of you actually know anything about the area, weigh in. Though it appears that no one here does.

But reading that again, I'm left uncertain as to whether it will apply. It looks like border patrol is thinking of bus stops as checkpoints rather than roving stops.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Is there anything at all to going to Tijuana, or is it just ugly border city?

It was probably 25 years ago now, but we drove across the border, down one street and then turned back and drove back.

These days I'd probably be a bit more adventurous, but at the time we didn't find any appeal.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

So I'm saying cross the border, can say I was in Mexico once. But no benefit beyond that? I really do not need to see a purely gross city.

You've never been to Mexico?

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

I'd be interested to know how long it's been going on since it seems like something that would be happening based on the change in political climate brought on by the fucking moron we will all soon be regretting we didn't do more to stop.

TM

Since roughly late September 2001, at least down here.

[Not Bob]

Hey, Sebby, what's a word for a dog-whistle that can be heard by dogs, cats, and Helen Keller? How about "traditional American"? Can you hear that one? (spree: CNN video)