I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

He's saying something loads of old crotchety bigots (and non-bigots) say: Rap isn't real music. The definition of "real music" is styles similar to what old white people recall from their youth. That covers the entire hip hop community.

Man, it is very disconcerting to be an old white dude who recalls rap from my youth. What am I supposed to do?

On behalf of America, however, I think we should all disavow Tony Orlando, with or without Dawn. That shit should go back to the elevator it was born in and just descend to the basement.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by notcasesensitive

NOT the married dude. I met this guy two days after the married dude.

Good on ya! Have fun kids.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

He's saying something loads of old crotchety bigots (and non-bigots) say: Rap isn't real music. The definition of "real music" is styles similar to what old white people recall from their youth. That covers the entire hip hop community.

As a crotchety old dude: real music requires actual instruments.

Some hip hop qualifies. Some does not.

That probably makes me a bigot.

[Not Bob]

Originally Posted by Adder

I'd tell you you're using the wrong sock but now I can only think of that guy's real name and not his zoning-obsessed sock name.

Sic transit gloria mundi, as Atticus might say.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Adder

Um. You think they got any votes at all from "the entire hip hop community??"

It's a dumb sector to alienate even further. Rap has been the new rock n roll for thirty years. The media covers it like crazy.

And the cost of what West and others might do in reply outweighs gaining cred with bigots whose votes you've already got sealed.

...Unless further division is intended. (I just reached that bleak consideration listening to Cohen's "You Want it Darker." Seems a perfectly morose compliment to that thought.)

[Not Bob]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

Man, it is very disconcerting to be an old white dude who recalls rap from my youth. What am I supposed to do?

On behalf of America, however, I think we should all disavow Tony Orlando, with or without Dawn. That shit should go back to the elevator it was born in and just descend to the basement.

Two days in a row? Did you not even like their variety show? And how can you not love a song about a prisoner returning home to see that his love is still there for him? Jesus Christ!

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Adder

As a crotchety old dude: real music requires actual instruments.

Some hip hop qualifies. Some does not.

That probably makes me a bigot.

So New Order and PE are...?

I hate synth pop as well, but come on.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower

I don't know them as in "have met them" of "are friends with them" (although one of my friends used to know the main dude) but I had that album and saw them live a couple times way back in the day. Really good live show. But damn that first album was a little skit heavy, even by hip hop standards.

Color me ba...er, impressed!

I hated the skits. Terrible. It's like they listened to 3 Feet High and decided to take it 18 steps further.

There were like 3 really good songs on that album, though.

TM

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by notcasesensitive

The guy I'm dating (look at me, I'm dating someone!) drove down to TJ last month to scope it out. He spent the night in Rosarito. He had a good time, ate some good food and said it is worth seeing, with the caveat that "I'm a sociologist so I am interested in more gritty urban stuff". Maybe not a ringing endorsement for a vacation destination. Getting across the border was relatively painless (obviously more work on the way back than on the way in).

I'm just going to say what everyone is thinking here: Get tested immediately. What he just said to you is that he's into some freaky ass dirty shit.

TM

[taxwonk]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

I'm just going to say what everyone is thinking here: Get tested immediately. What he just said to you is that he's into some freaky ass dirty shit.

TM

You say this as though there's such a thing as freaky ass clean shit.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Not Bob

Two days in a row? Did you not even like their variety show? And how can you not love a song about a prisoner returning home to see that his love is still there for him? Jesus Christ!

Tie a yella ribbon round it dude.

That muzak is one step south of Point Me in the Direction of Albequerque

[notcasesensitive]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

I'm just going to say what everyone is thinking here: Get tested immediately. What he just said to you is that he's into some freaky ass dirty shit.

TM

Ha ha ha. I'm glad to be doing my part to turn the politics board into the fashion board.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Not Bob

Atticus

Right, that guy. It's just that he's just as zoning obsessed under his real name.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

He's saying something loads of old crotchety bigots (and non-bigots) say: Rap isn't real music.

No he isn't. He's saying that his traditional America doesn't include blacks and rap. White nationalism and Trump's base see themselves as belonging to a community, if one without zoning laws, defined primarily by race and culture, and that's not his culture.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

He's saying something loads of old crotchety bigots (and non-bigots) say: Rap isn't real music. The definition of "real music" is styles similar to what old white people recall from their youth. That covers the entire hip hop community.

Yes. But the entire hip hop community consists of pretty much everyone who isn't into country AND western under the age of 50.

TM