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		|  10-05-2017, 09:07 PM | #2251 |  
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					Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?  It's depressing that I agree with this:https://www.gq.com/story/las-vegas-i...merica-happens 
"This is not a matter of mere division that can be solved with flying flags on your doorstep and linking arms for the anthem. This is brokenness. This is me hoping America stops happening to people. This is me hoping to simply survive America rather than fix it." |  Mika's dad grasped the issue long ago...
http://trilateral.org/download/doc/c..._democracy.pdf
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		|  10-05-2017, 09:09 PM | #2252 |  
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					Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski  What is a liberal state? Sebby et al turned two reliable blue states red. We can't come with? |  I don't see how we could leave Michigan behind. I mean, the state has both Detroit AND Ann Arbor. Wisconsin, too, but on the condition they run Walker out of town on a rail first.
 
However, I want to find a way to take Philly and Pittsburgh but leave the rest of Pennsylvania behind.  Maybe add the rest to West Virginia?
 
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					Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy  I don't see how we could leave Michigan behind. I mean, the state has both Detroit AND Ann Arbor. Wisconsin, too, but on the condition they run Walker out of town on a rail first.
 However, I want to find a way to take Philly and Pittsburgh but leave the rest of Pennsylvania behind.  Maybe add the rest to West Virginia?
 
 Fundamentally, America's problem is an historical one, not one of recent vintage. We failed at reconstruction. We left the cancer there to grow.
 |  Your boy Michael Moore would point to Traverse City, but thanks for playin!
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					Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?  Let's just have all of the big cities and liberal states form their own country. |  You sound like Penske.  And at this point, I'm with it.  We can spend the money we constantly throw at all of those super red, rural states on healthcare, mental health issues, homelessness, public transportation, and education.  They can cut taxes and watch their economies take off!
 
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					Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy  I don't see how we could leave Michigan behind. I mean, the state has both Detroit AND Ann Arbor. Wisconsin, too, but on the condition they run Walker out of town on a rail first.
 However, I want to find a way to take Philly and Pittsburgh but leave the rest of Pennsylvania behind.  Maybe add the rest to West Virginia?
 
 Fundamentally, America's problem is an historical one, not one of recent vintage. We failed at reconstruction. We left the cancer there to grow.
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		|  10-06-2017, 11:33 AM | #2256 |  
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					Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall  Fuck Wisconsin.
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		|  10-06-2017, 11:42 AM | #2257 |  
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					Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?  You can come.  Your state cannot.  And I think Michigan is gorgeous, but it's a sacrifice we'll have to make. |  I'm perfectly fine in a country in which Michigan is the most conservative state.
 
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					Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy  Fundamentally, America's problem is an historical one, not one of recent vintage. We failed at reconstruction. We left the cancer there to grow. |  Yes, but also before that. How different would thing be had we had the slavery fight at the Constitutional Convention? |  
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					Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy  I don't see how we could leave Michigan behind. I mean, the state has both Detroit AND Ann Arbor. Wisconsin, too, but on the condition they run Walker out of town on a rail first.
 However, I want to find a way to take Philly and Pittsburgh but leave the rest of Pennsylvania behind.  Maybe add the rest to West Virginia?
 
 Fundamentally, America's problem is an historical one, not one of recent vintage. We failed at reconstruction. We left the cancer there to grow.
 |  I don't know about Pittsburgh - the only Steelers jerseys worn by fans are Roetlisberger (I'm not looking it up) and Heath Miller.  What do those two guys have in common?
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					Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski  Your boy Michael Moore would point to Traverse City, but thanks for playin! |  Whatever Michael Moore is, my boy he is not, but are you saying something against Traverse City here, 'cause Traverse City is fine by me.
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					Originally Posted by Adder  I'm perfectly fine in a country in which Michigan is the most conservative state.
 Wisconsin is out, though.
 |  Why the Wisconsin hate here?  We can't leave a hole between Michigan, Illinois, and Minnesota, or the territory becomes tougher to defend.
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					Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski  What is a liberal state? Sebby et al turned two reliable blue states red. We can't come with? |  PA is a Commonwealth.
 
This is why it's a shithole.  Every county is its own state.  Impossible to do anything, endlessly corrupt.
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					Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy  I don't see how we could leave Michigan behind. I mean, the state has both Detroit AND Ann Arbor. Wisconsin, too, but on the condition they run Walker out of town on a rail first.
 However, I want to find a way to take Philly and Pittsburgh but leave the rest of Pennsylvania behind.  Maybe add the rest to West Virginia?
 
 Fundamentally, America's problem is an historical one, not one of recent vintage. We failed at reconstruction. We left the cancer there to grow.
 |  Pittsburgh has the Google compound at Bakery Square and its surrounding tech development.  That's the only piece of the commonwealth you need or want.
 
All of the rest should be put on a barge and sailed toward Antarctica.
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					Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy  Why the Wisconsin hate here?  We can't leave a hole between Michigan, Illinois, and Minnesota, or the territory becomes tougher to defend. |  Every been there? It’s one thing to eat a butter burger once because you’re on vacation. It’s a whole nother thing to do it a few times a week.
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					Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy  Whatever Michael Moore is, my boy he is not, but are you saying something against Traverse City here, 'cause Traverse City is fine by me. |  His film festival is there. TC was nice 20 years ago, but it is overwhelmed with people now. Go 40 miles north to Charlevoix, or 20 NW to Northport.
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