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Old 08-19-2019, 01:36 PM   #11
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Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same

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Please cite where I said either of those things.

Let's do a quick run through. I said that generalizations about Chinese products are likely racist.

You responded with a lengthy, defensive rant and said I was "passing judgment."

I responded by trying to explain, again, that we all do, think and say things that are racist, because it is everywhere, and it's not a "judgment" to acknowledge it when we do.

And then you rambled some more and I stopped reading closely.
My comments about Chinese products are not racist. Many of those I've owned are built badly and break quickly.

I cannot speak to whether other complaints about Chinese products are born of racism. Nor can you. Neither of us know.

Do you nevertheless contend my comments are racist?

Do you contend the comments I cited about Chinese products are all racist?

Do you contend that every comment critiquing a foreign product is in some part racist toward the people of the country in which it was made?

Do you think the fallowing can be said without involving any racism: "Chinese appliances suck. They break easily and aren't well built."

Is it possible that, even if that last comment is wrong, it is born not of racism but of generalization?

I'm not doing this because I'm fragile. I'm doing this because your thinking is fragile. And it should be adjusted. Because your thinking is what makes white people write off smart thinkers on racism, like Diangelo, as cranks. You coming off as naive and extreme allows people who'd listen to a thoughtful argument to say, "Oh, these lefties are all fucking nuts. Can't deal with them."

You need to stop seeing racism in every corner and shouting it. You need to instead argue racism is omnipresent and can be an element of anything. But isn't always, necessarily, an element of everything. Sometimes, a guy just dislikes Chinese appliances.
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