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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski
Dude, take a breath. Adder is too quick to blame him/us (he is where I coined the post summary “white people bad, black people good”) but he ain’t stupid and the point in this bit is, you quoting several people saying anything made in China is shit. Then you admit that only some is. But that means you gotta look at the thing in question? I’ve a client whose name everyone here respects, they make stuff in China. It’s good I believe- their name is too important not to watch that. So to quote someone saying “China shit is bad” isn’t too far from Adder’s “white people bad.*” An overly simplified view that boils a more nuanced q to race?
*Adder, first version equates it to “all blacks bad” but I thought this works better to my audience? No offense.
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I see your point. But you’re doing something Adder doesn’t. You’re asking whether a bent against Chinese people informs a view of their products. He’s already passed judgement and decided it is entirely the reason for my dislike of the products noted. You’re seeking insight. He’s seeking applause, reinforcement of his judgment.
There is no insincerity or insecurity to be found in your criticism. That’s why I’ll address it without sarcasm.
I think it’s fair to say a lot of what China makes is substandard because it’s simply factually accurate. That’s not controversial. My clients and friends who do business there wouldn’t quibble much with that. It was Where You Got Stuff Built Cheap. Now it’s not so cheap. Economically, this means that products cheaply made a few years ago are even more cheaply made now.
They make parts for GM cars, and some GM cars entirely. Okay. You buying a Buick crossover anytime soon?
I buy only Japanese. It’s boring, but it works forever. My wife buys German. Over-engineered junk. I’m not driving an Audi with a turbo engine, or any car with a belt I’ll replace for $3k at 100k miles. Benz E classes are now 4 cylinder turbos. And I’ll never own another BMW, despite loving how they perform. Cars fall apart at 150k miles.
Toyota and their Lexus division? Cars run for 250k easily. No problems.
(At this point, Adder would perhaps cite Nanking as further proof I am deeply anti-China.)
Anyway, I’m not anti-China. My house is decorated in Chinese and Japanese stuff. And I’ve honestly not really thought about China much other than to suspect their foreign policy based on shit I heard from a state department fellow who knew some generals over there and said they’re Not Our Friends.
But no one should be our friends. They’re our rival. That’s okay.
But if you sell me a piece of crap HVAC unit, dishwasher, washer/dryer, and auto parts, it’s reasonable for me to say, you guys are making shit.
That you make great stuff in one area doesn’t undo making some real crappy shit elsewhere. If to note that that makes me a racist toward the Chinese, then so too is Consumer Reports.
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