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[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Hank woke up one day and looked outside and everything was blue.

In Michigan yes! But before we start sucking each other’s dick Hershel Walker might still be a Senator.

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

In Michigan yes! But before we start sucking each other’s dick Hershel Walker might still be a Senator.

“Start” sucking each other’s dicks?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower

“Start” sucking each other’s dicks?

Two words: “get Viagra” so we can be done?

[Hank Chinaski]

Michigan's legislature historically did the redistricting after each census. At some point the Republicans controlled both houses. The districts became severely Gerrymandered and the Rs have controlled both houses since. We are a pretty blue state (we just passed a proposal to amend the State constitution to prevent any law restricting abortion by about 55% as an example). but we kept getting crazed laws whenever we had an R Gov.

In 2018 a ballot proposal took redistricting away from the legislature and appointed a commission with 4 Rs, 4 Ds and 1 independent (I do not know how someone proves they are independent). They redistricted after 2020 census. On Tuesday the Ds took both houses handily.

I don't think people are using the power of ballot proposals anywhere near what they should be doing.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

They came out and they fucking kicked ass.

The kids are alright.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Michigan's legislature historically did the redistricting after each census. At some point the Republicans controlled both houses. The districts became severely Gerrymandered and the Rs have controlled both houses since. We are a pretty blue state (we just passed a proposal to amend the State constitution to prevent any law restricting abortion by about 55% as an example). but we kept getting crazed laws whenever we had an R Gov.

In 2018 a ballot proposal took redistricting away from the legislature and appointed a commission with 4 Rs, 4 Ds and 1 independent (I do not know how someone proves they are independent). They redistricted after 2020 census. On Tuesday the Ds took both houses handily.

I don't think people are using the power of ballot proposals anywhere near what they should be doing.

I wish to holy hell we had them down here for this and abortion.

of course, California is a cautionary tale of when ballot proposals go insane.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

In Michigan yes! But before we start sucking each other’s dick Hershel Walker might still be a Senator.

I know, right?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Michigan's legislature historically did the redistricting after each census. At some point the Republicans controlled both houses. The districts became severely Gerrymandered and the Rs have controlled both houses since. We are a pretty blue state (we just passed a proposal to amend the State constitution to prevent any law restricting abortion by about 55% as an example). but we kept getting crazed laws whenever we had an R Gov.

In 2018 a ballot proposal took redistricting away from the legislature and appointed a commission with 4 Rs, 4 Ds and 1 independent (I do not know how someone proves they are independent). They redistricted after 2020 census. On Tuesday the Ds took both houses handily.

I don't think people are using the power of ballot proposals anywhere near what they should be doing.

Totally varies state by state. There's way too much of it in California. ETA As RT said. Every election we get to vote on whether to make it impossible to run a dialysis clinic, and this time we had two internet gambling measures to reject, so there'll probably be more of that.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

The kids are alright.

Yeah, but our generation is a bunch of fuck-ups.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

Yeah, but our generation is a bunch of fuck-ups.

True enough.

Completely separately, I take it as a point of personal pride that I can run an online forum 1024 weeks longer and much more effectively than the richest person in the world can.

[LessinSF]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

True enough.

Completely separately, I take it as a point of personal pride that I can run an online forum 1024 weeks longer and much more effectively than the richest person in the world can.

And a thrash metal drummer might cost him $56 billion - https://news.yahoo.com/elon-musk-bra...110518667.html

[LessinSF]

Originally Posted by LessinSF

And a thrash metal drummer might cost him $56 billion - https://news.yahoo.com/elon-musk-bra...110518667.html

https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...rQ&oe=63763D48

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

I'm not super close to the race, but I'm curious what you don't like about Fetterman.

I don't really dislike either of them too much. Oz was a boring moderate R and Fetterman does have an earnest focus on helping the "left behind" sorts in PA.

My gripe about populists supporting Fetterman is he attracted a lot of the dim voters. People for whom residence is most important, and "lookin' like us." I'm more annoyed that the Commonwealth is so provincial, so parochial, than I am at Fetterman. He actually ran brilliant campaigns to position himself to beat Conor Lamb in the primary and then to beat Oz in the general.

Trump courted the same populists in 2016. Grabbed the "You can have a beer with me, and I'll bring your jobs back" vote.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Totally varies state by state. There's way too much of it in California. ETA As RT said. Every election we get to vote on whether to make it impossible to run a dialysis clinic, and this time we had two internet gambling measures to reject, so there'll probably be more of that.

Say what you will about referenda, but they do hedge against personality cults and tyranny of the minority.

The country supports abortion rights. In states where abortion has been restricted, a thin band of officious legislators thwart the wishes of a significant majority.

But that can't happen when referenda are passed blocking those legislators' ability to fiddle with abortion rights. As we saw happen in 6 states, many red ones, this cycle.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

Oz was a boring moderate R

Dude