This is the thread where the fringster comes back with teeth

[Sidd Finch]

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch

A female colleague thought it was uncouth that they're gender-qualifying Semenya. I passed on the chance to make a "Semenya" tranny joke to point out that gender qualifying exists to protect the women who work their asses off to compete in women's sports. East Germany wasn't trying to pass women off as men, and Manny Ramirez wasn't trying to become a female. Of course, I also think allowing women into the PGA is bad for golf because it's bad for women's golf. Reducing the women's game to only those few who can compete with men (for distance, say) is net bad for women and for girls.

Yeesh. This reads like "segregation now, segregation tomorrow, and segregation forever," so let me say women should be allowed to compete in men's events if they wish, but acknowledge that it will unintentionally diminish the women's events to the JV of the human race, and athletics should not be so, any more than every bantamweight fighter should aspire to be a superweavyweight. Divisions exist to maximize the potential to excel.

It's hard to believe you ever got laid.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch

A female colleague thought it was uncouth that they're gender-qualifying Semenya. I passed on the chance to make a "Semenya" tranny joke to point out that gender qualifying exists to protect the women who work their asses off to compete in women's sports. East Germany wasn't trying to pass women off as men, and Manny Ramirez wasn't trying to become a female. Of course, I also think allowing women into the PGA is bad for golf because it's bad for women's golf. Reducing the women's game to only those few who can compete with men (for distance, say) is net bad for women and for girls.

Yeesh. This reads like "segregation now, segregation tomorrow, and segregation forever," so let me say women should be allowed to compete in men's events if they wish, but acknowledge that it will unintentionally diminish the women's events to the JV of the human race, and athletics should not be so, any more than every bantamweight fighter should aspire to be a superweavyweight. Divisions exist to maximize the potential to excel.

Seems like a strange thing to say about women's golf. Men's golf shouldn't be considered men's golf. It should be considered the best golf. If you can make the tour, you are one of the best and should play. I bet if a woman did this it would do amazing things for women's golf in the long run.

TM

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch

A female colleague thought it was uncouth that they're gender-qualifying Semenya. I passed on the chance to make a "Semenya" tranny joke to point out that gender qualifying exists to protect the women who work their asses off to compete in women's sports. East Germany wasn't trying to pass women off as men, and Manny Ramirez wasn't trying to become a female. Of course, I also think allowing women into the PGA is bad for golf because it's bad for women's golf. Reducing the women's game to only those few who can compete with men (for distance, say) is net bad for women and for girls.

Yeesh. This reads like "segregation now, segregation tomorrow, and segregation forever," so let me say women should be allowed to compete in men's events if they wish, but acknowledge that it will unintentionally diminish the women's events to the JV of the human race, and athletics should not be so, any more than every bantamweight fighter should aspire to be a superweavyweight. Divisions exist to maximize the potential to excel.

how can it take a very long time to complete the testing? what does this person look like that it isn't a quick decision?

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally Posted by Sidd Finch

It's hard to believe you ever got laid.

I know. Some days I still don't.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

Seems like a strange thing to say about women's golf. Men's golf shouldn't be considered men's golf. It should be considered the best golf. If you can make the tour, you are one of the best and should play. I bet if a woman did this it would do amazing things for women's golf in the long run.

TM

Only time will tell. My thought, which could be wrong, is that admitting the best women into the PGA will suck all of their air out of the LPGA. Who would sponsor it? Televise it? Why bother if the place to go to see the best women golfers is the PGA? Same is true of other sports. If I want to see the best women in the sport, I'll see tens or hundreds of them. But a woman playing for the NBA equals the doom of the WNBA, and will reduce the women who play in the NBA to rare curiosities. But you could be right; I simply fear you are not.

[Hank Chinaski]

help--- I've been lucky with clients not going b-rpt, or if they did, they owed me like $500 or so. now I'm not lucky anymore.

it's reorg, and it looks like I'll collect for the future, but they owed X on the day they filed. do I hire a lawyer for trying to get as much of X as I can? assume there are 4 zeros in X, but the company probably has debtors with 5 or 6 zeroes owed.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch

But a woman playing for the NBA equals the doom of the WNBA, and will reduce the women who play in the NBA to rare curiosities.

This does not support your more general point.

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

help--- I've been lucky with clients not going b-rpt, or if they did, they owed me like $500 or so. now I'm not lucky anymore.

it's reorg, and it looks like I'll collect for the future, but they owed X on the day they filed. do I hire a lawyer for trying to get as much of X as I can? assume there are 4 zeros in X, but the company probably has debtors with 5 or 6 zeroes owed.

Short answer: u r fuked

Unsecured creditors practically get wiped out in situations like this so secured creditors get more on the $. Depending on the $ it might be worth hiring a bankruptcy specialist who can make noise and hopefully get you something.

PM me if you need names.

[Miss Maine]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

help--- I've been lucky with clients not going b-rpt, or if they did, they owed me like $500 or so. now I'm not lucky anymore.

it's reorg, and it looks like I'll collect for the future, but they owed X on the day they filed. do I hire a lawyer for trying to get as much of X as I can? assume there are 4 zeros in X, but the company probably has debtors with 5 or 6 zeroes owed.

Try to get a seat on the unsecured creditors' committee. The committee hires its own lawyer to represent all the unsecureds (paid for by the DIP). He/she will negotiate the best deal for your class. Expect this to take at least 18 months. I know a very good BK atty in Detroit if that's the location of the filing. Good luck

Miss Maine

[barely_legal]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

He would be the one. I'm hoping that he goes down after a verbal lashing from Toby.

I've been to that chef's restaurant many times. It's gone downhill lately. Actually, I think one of the times I went there (back when it was good) I was meeting you!

I also have a reservation for the chef's table at Brian Voltaggio's restaurant in three weeks. He's the older of the two brothers competing. Frederick is a pain in the ass drive from D.C. but from everything I've read, it's worth it.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Do I need spoiler space?





Why would someone make a movie like this? Why would viewers want to have a movie make them feel the way it makes you feel? That was horrible. It may have been the saddest movie I've ever seen. Do people enjoy these types of movies?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?

Do I need spoiler space?





Why would someone make a movie like this? Why would viewers want to have a movie make them feel the way it makes you feel? That was horrible. It may have been the saddest movie I've ever seen. Do people enjoy these types of movies?

I saw the death as a metaphor for Jen and Brad's relationship, but wasn't sure who was the Angelina figure?

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally Posted by barely_legal

I've been to that chef's restaurant many times. It's gone downhill lately. Actually, I think one of the times I went there (back when it was good) I was meeting you!

I also have a reservation for the chef's table at Brian Voltaggio's restaurant in three weeks. He's the older of the two brothers competing. Frederick is a pain in the ass drive from D.C. but from everything I've read, it's worth it.

Huh. I thought the name of the restautrant was familiar!

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch

Only time will tell. My thought, which could be wrong, is that admitting the best women into the PGA will suck all of their air out of the LPGA. Who would sponsor it? Televise it? Why bother if the place to go to see the best women golfers is the PGA? Same is true of other sports. If I want to see the best women in the sport, I'll see tens or hundreds of them. But a woman playing for the NBA equals the doom of the WNBA, and will reduce the women who play in the NBA to rare curiosities. But you could be right; I simply fear you are not.

I doubt that there would be an exodus of women to the PGA. I think what realistically has a chance of happening is that a woman could qualify for and compete on the men's tour. She might do that for a year to test herself against the best golfers in the world, but neither she nor other young women would leave the LPGA for the PGA permanently. It would make you a star in the short term, but finishing in the bottom third or wherever for the rest of your career when you could be a huge star on the women's tour probably isn't very desirable.

And i don't know why you brought up the NBA. And I don't want to sound sexist, but there is no way a woman could ever play in the NBA. Women's basketball and men's basketball, at the top levels (unlike volleyball), might as well be two different sports.

TM

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

I doubt that there would be an exodus of women to the PGA. I think what realistically has a chance of happening is that a woman could qualify for and compete on the men's tour. She might do that for a year to test herself against the best golfers in the world, but neither she nor other young women would leave the LPGA for the PGA permanently. It would make you a star in the short term, but finishing in the bottom third or wherever for the rest of your career when you could be a huge star on the women's tour probably isn't very desirable.

And i don't know why you brought up the NBA. And I don't want to sound sexist, but there is no way a woman could ever play in the NBA. Women's basketball and men's basketball, at the top levels (unlike volleyball), might as well be two different sports.

TM

actually a woman finishing top 10 in a PGA event would be the best thing for the LPGA. It would bring fan interest and credibility, because no woman golfer would ever actually leave the LPGA other than a few events a year.

NBA/WNBA- any woman who could play in the NBA would have so ruined competition in the WNBA that the league would benefit greatly from her leaving.