This is the thread where the fringster comes back with teeth - Page 18

Cletus Miller · 06-17-2009, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by notcasesensitive

Yeah, I get this. He was saying that the actual BAC resulting from drinking the same amount is lower for alcoholics though and I've never heard anything like that.

Not "alcoholics", I wasn't being serious with the "discriminating against non-alcoholics".

notcasesensitive · 06-17-2009, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Cletus Miller

Not "alcoholics", I wasn't being serious with the "discriminating against non-alcoholics".

Now I feel like you are arguing with yourself.

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Originally Posted by Cletus Miller

There is basis for those who drink more, more frequently metabolizing slower/faster to test slightly lower (and, clearly, to seem less drunk at much higher BAC), which is relevant in 2 drinks = what BAC; and also, as Coltrane noted, when tested w/r/t when consumed.

This was your response when I asked for clarification. We were talking about actual computation of BAC, not how a person performs tasks at a given BAC.

ThurgreedMarshall · 06-17-2009, 04:32 PM

This time, in response to a letter from his landlord.
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From: David Thorne
Date: Thursday 21 May 2009 10.16am
To: Helen Bailey
Subject: Pets in the building

Dear Helen,

Thankyou for your letter concerning pets in my apartment. I understand that having dogs in the apartment is a violation of the agreement due to the comfort and wellbeing of my neighbours and I am currently soundproofing my apartment with egg cartons as I realise my dogs can cause quite a bit of noise. Especially during feeding time when I release live rabbits.

Regards, David.

From: Helen Bailey
Date: Thursday 21 May 2009 11.18am
To: David Thorne
Subject: Re: Pets in the building

Hello David

I have received your email and wish to remind you that the strata agreement states that no animals are allowed in the building regardless of if your apartment is soundproof. How many dogs do you have at the premises?

Helen

From: David Thorne
Date: Thursday 21 May 2009 1.52pm
To: Helen Bailey
Subject: Re: Re: Pets in the building

Dear Helen,

Currently I only have eight dogs but one is expecting puppies and I am very excited by this. I am hoping for a litter of at least ten as this is the number required to participate in dog sled racing. I have read every Jack London novel in preparation and have constructed my own sled from timber I borrowed from the construction site across the road during the night. I have devised a plan which I feel will ensure me taking first place in the next national dog sled championships. For the first year of the puppies life I intend to say the word mush then chase them violently around the apartment while yelling and hitting saucepan lids together. I have estimated that the soundproofing of my apartment should block out at least sixty percent of the noise and the dogs will learn to associate the word mush with great fear so when I yell it on race day, the panic and released adrenaline will spur them on to being winners. I am so confident of this being a foolproof plan that I intend to sell all my furniture the day before the race and bet the proceeds on coming first place.

Regards, David.

From: Helen Bailey
Date: Friday 22 May 2009 9.43am
To: David Thorne
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Pets in the building

David, I am unsure what to make of your email. Do you have pets in the apartment or not?

Helen

From: David Thorne
Date: Friday 22 May 2009 11.27am
To: Helen Bailey
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Pets in the building

Dear Helen,

No. I have a goldfish but due to the air conditioner in my apartment being stuck on a constant two degrees celcius, the water in its bowl is iced over and he has not moved for a while so I do not think he is capable of disturbing the neighbours. The ducks in the bathroom are not mine. The noise which my neighbours possibly mistook for a dog in the apartment is just the looping tape I have of dogs barking which I play at high volume while I am at work to deter potential burglars from breaking in and stealing my tupperware. I need it to keep food fresh. Once I ate leftover chinese that had been kept in an unsealed container and I experienced complete awareness. The next night I tried eating it again but only experienced chest pains and diarrhoea.

Regards, David.

From: Helen Bailey
Date: Friday 22 May 2009 1.46pm
To: David Thorne
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Pets in the building

Hello David

You cannot play sounds of dogs or any noise at a volume that disturbs others. I am sure you can appreciate that these rules are for the benefit of all residents of the building. Fish are fine. You cannot have ducks in the apartment though. If it was small birds that would be ok.

Helen

From: David Thorne
Date: Friday 22 May 2009 2.18pm
To: Helen Bailey
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Pets in the building

Dear Helen,

They are very small ducks.

Regards, David.

From: Helen Bailey
Date: Friday 22 May 2009 4.06pm
To: David Thorne
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Pets in the building

David, under section 4 of the strata residency agreement it states that you cannot have pets. You agreed to these rules when you signed the forms. These rules are set out to benefit everyone in the building including yourself. Do you have a telephone number I can call you on to discuss?

Helen

From: David Thorne
Date: Friday 22 May 2009 5.02pm
To: Helen Bailey
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Pets in the building

Dear Helen,

The ducks will no doubt be flying south for the winter soon so it will not be an issue. It is probably for the best as they are not getting along very well with my seventeen cats anyway. .

Regards, David.

From: Helen Bailey
Date: Monday 25 May 2009 9.22am
To: David Thorne
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Pets in the building

David, I am just going to write on the forms that we have investigated and you do not have any pets.

Helen
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TM

Shape Shifter · 06-17-2009, 04:48 PM

Do bedbugs count as pets?

Replaced_Texan · 06-17-2009, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

This time, in response to a letter from his landlord.
_____________________

From: David Thorne
Date: Thursday 21 May 2009 10.16am
To: Helen Bailey
Subject: Pets in the building

Dear Helen,

Thankyou for your letter concerning pets in my apartment. I understand that having dogs in the apartment is a violation of the agreement due to the comfort and wellbeing of my neighbours and I am currently soundproofing my apartment with egg cartons as I realise my dogs can cause quite a bit of noise. Especially during feeding time when I release live rabbits.

Regards, David.

. . . .

From: Helen Bailey
Date: Monday 25 May 2009 9.22am
To: David Thorne
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Pets in the building

David, I am just going to write on the forms that we have investigated and you do not have any pets.

Helen
______________

TM

This just made me happy. And reiterated why I refuse to live anywhere that requires some busybody to fill out a form if I paint my house purple.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) · 06-17-2009, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

I refuse to live anywhere that requires some busybody to fill out a form if I paint my house purple.

If only it were so easy in an HOA. The form-filling is usually the easy part.

ThurgreedMarshall · 06-17-2009, 04:57 PM

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy · 06-17-2009, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Shape Shifter

Do bedbugs count as pets?

Do they pay rent or freeload?

Cletus Miller · 06-17-2009, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by notcasesensitive

Now I feel like you are arguing with yourself.

This was your response when I asked for clarification. We were talking about actual computation of BAC, not how a person performs tasks at a given BAC.

Yeah, probably. I think I approached .20 last night* and suffering the impairment today.

*And I drove home without the slightest impairment. Take that PLF.

Replaced_Texan · 06-17-2009, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)

If only it were so easy in an HOA. The form-filling is usually the easy part.

I got out of jury duty a few years ago because I told the lawyers that I don't believe in HOAs. I don't think the HOA plaintiff really liked my rant on property rights.

LessinSF · 06-17-2009, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cletus Miller

Yeah, probably. I think I approached .20 last night* and suffering the impairment today.

*And I drove home without the slightest impairment. Take that PLF.

You need one of these:

notcasesensitive · 06-17-2009, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

I got out of jury duty a few years ago because I told the lawyers that I don't believe in HOAs. I don't think the HOA plaintiff really liked my rant on property rights.

Taking this tangent and running with it...

I was a member of a jury pool last year for a automobile products liability claim (the case was estimated to take around 6 weeks to litigate, so there was a huge jury pool and attorneys and the judge started questioning members of the pool after the hardship people were sent home) and I thought 99% of the people who claimed bias as a reason not to serve were full of shit. Seriously, there was a woman who got up in the witness stand and said that she doesn't believe in cars. She thinks that everyone should ride bikes or take public transport. Whatever.

I was in fact biased against the plaintiff's case after hearing the attorneys' synopsis of their case, but didn't serve (don't know whether I would have made the panel, but the attorneys in the pool who were called ahead of me all were thrown out by one side or the other) because my grandma was in home hospice and took a bad turn during the selection process. I had to go in chambers with the judge and attorneys to be excused from the process after a few days of watching the goings on (my grandma died the day after I was excused). Pretty interesting process, really.

Hank Chinaski · 06-17-2009, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by notcasesensitive

Taking this tangent and running with it...

I was a member of a jury pool last year for a automobile products liability claim (the case was estimated to take around 6 weeks to litigate, so there was a huge jury pool and attorneys and the judge started questioning members of the pool after the hardship people were sent home) and I thought 99% of the people who claimed bias as a reason not to serve were full of shit. Seriously, there was a woman who got up in the witness stand and said that she doesn't believe in cars. She thinks that everyone should ride bikes or take public transport. Whatever.

I was in fact biased against the plaintiff's case after hearing the attorneys' synopsis of their case, but didn't serve (don't know whether I would have made the panel, but the attorneys in the pool who were called ahead of me all were thrown out by one side or the other) because my grandma was in home hospice and took a bad turn during the selection process. I had to go in chambers with the judge and attorneys to be excused from the process after a few days of watching the goings on (my grandma died the day after I was excused). Pretty interesting process, really.

I have given this advice before, but mindful of how often I go on and off of several ignore lists, I will repeat:

the best I ever saw was an older guy who keeping answering the voir dire questions "Huh?" after 4 or 5 of those he got off w/o needing to be a prick to either side.

Replaced_Texan · 06-17-2009, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by notcasesensitive

Taking this tangent and running with it...

I was a member of a jury pool last year for a automobile products liability claim (the case was estimated to take around 6 weeks to litigate, so there was a huge jury pool and attorneys and the judge started questioning members of the pool after the hardship people were sent home) and I thought 99% of the people who claimed bias as a reason not to serve were full of shit. Seriously, there was a woman who got up in the witness stand and said that she doesn't believe in cars. She thinks that everyone should ride bikes or take public transport. Whatever.

I was in fact biased against the plaintiff's case after hearing the attorneys' synopsis of their case, but didn't serve (don't know whether I would have made the panel, but the attorneys in the pool who were called ahead of me all were thrown out by one side or the other) because my grandma was in home hospice and took a bad turn during the selection process. I had to go in chambers with the judge and attorneys to be excused from the process after a few days of watching the goings on (my grandma died the day after I was excused). Pretty interesting process, really.

The HOA thing is a longstanding belief. I mean, it's not like the easter bunny or santa claus. I believe that HOAs exist. I just don't believe in subjecting my own property to one.

I was a little sad two weeks ago when the criminal trial that we were supposed to hear got dismissed (the guy plead while we were walking over from the jury assembly room and got 20 years, I assume he must have done something pretty violent). I was number 13 of the pool, so when we were walking over I assumed that, absent some pretty major bias, I was going to end up on that jury, and I was looking forward to it. I realized that I probably would have been tossed, though, when I walked into the courtroom. I went to law school with the prosecutor, and she used to work out at my gym. I don't know if I would have been biased towards her for that reason, but I'm sure I would have been challenged for cause because of that longstanding aquaintance.

notcasesensitive · 06-17-2009, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

The HOA thing is a longstanding belief. I mean, it's not like the easter bunny or santa claus. I believe that HOAs exist. I just don't believe in subjecting my own property to one.

Yeah, I was the only person in my group of friends in property class who argued that it was bullshit that neighbors were blocking the people from building the modern-style house that looked like a jack-o-lantern in the HOA case in our textbook. I was surprised that all my friends thought that was a perfectly reasonable restriction on property rights.