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		|  01-15-2009, 04:40 PM | #4021 |  
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					Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski  survivors? I've never listened to the emergency instruction since it seemed like they were just to comfort the really scared. next time I'm reading them. |  Huh. I wonder if they're actuallly using the seat cushions as floatation devices.  I can't imagine that the Hudson is very warm right now.
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		|  01-15-2009, 04:40 PM | #4022 |  
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					Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)  As was Steve Fossett.  I see B'nB's dad more in that model. |  You mean crazy, but without a british accent?
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		|  01-15-2009, 04:40 PM | #4023 |  
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					Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan  Huh. I wonder if they're actuallly using the seat cushions as floatation devices.  I can't imagine that the Hudson is very warm right now. |  Reports say the water is 40 degrees (Fahrenheit).
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		|  01-15-2009, 04:42 PM | #4024 |  
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					Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan  Huh. I wonder if they're actuallly using the seat cushions as floatation devices.  I can't imagine that the Hudson is very warm right now. |  video had some of them with the little packaged inflatable life jackets around their necks.
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		|  01-15-2009, 04:44 PM | #4025 |  
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					Originally Posted by Cletus Miller  Reports say the water is 40 degrees (Fahrenheit). |   quotes a passenger saying everyone survived (they think).  Which is good. |  
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		|  01-15-2009, 04:48 PM | #4026 |  
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					Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)  video had some of them with the little packaged inflatable life jackets around their necks. |  My boyfriend has been watching MSNBC for the last half hour.
 Hit a flock of geeseEveryone is off the planePilot is a godFerry boats were on the scene within minutes throwing lifejackets at the passengers (I guess no need for using the seat cushion).A tugboat has been helping to keep the plane afloat until people could be rescuedplane didn't start sinking until they got most people offTook four minutes for boats to get thereInjuries, but likely cold-water relatedMay be the first water landing of a commercial jet liner.  No one can remember another.FAA saying no deaths.
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					Originally Posted by greatwhitenorthchick  Is it too soon to speculate that the plane crash might have been the work of the flying religious lunatic Osama Bird Laden? |  He's more skillful than that.  
 
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		|  01-15-2009, 05:08 PM | #4028 |  
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					Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan  May be the first water landing of a commercial jet liner.  No one can remember another. |  I was told at one point by a credible source that I could ignore the instructions "in the unlikely event of a water landing" because there had never been a survivable water landing in the jet age because the stall speed of a jet is too high to remain intact.  Yet there's this, the one in DC in the early '80s, and the one at the beach in Aruba or whereever where the drunk hijackers ran the plane out of fuel -- they're always showing that guy's vacation video of the crash on those World's Wildest etc. TV shows.  People died in both of those, but a small number survived.
 
So it appears the advice is either that there's never been a fully-survivable  water landing of a passenger jet until today, or that there's never been one on the open ocean.  YMMV, indeed. |  
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		|  01-15-2009, 05:17 PM | #4029 |  
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					Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch   the one in DC in the early '80s, |  that was really more a bridge landing, with a rebound into the water.
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					Originally Posted by bold_n_brazen  When I say my father is a pilot, I do not mean as a profession. |   I, um, we all know this.  But only because you've said it here about 300 times.
 
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		|  01-15-2009, 08:35 PM | #4031 |  
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					Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall  I, um, we all know this.  But only because you've said it here about 300 times.
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		|  01-15-2009, 09:04 PM | #4032 |  
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					Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan  May be the first water landing of a commercial jet liner.  No one can remember another. |  so the safety instructions are just made up? did they have a contest to come up with them?
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					Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch  I was told at one point by a credible source that I could ignore the instructions "in the unlikely event of a water landing" because there had never been a survivable water landing in the jet age because the stall speed of a jet is too high to remain intact.  Yet there's this, the one in DC in the early '80s, and the one at the beach in Aruba or whereever where the drunk hijackers ran the plane out of fuel -- they're always showing that guy's vacation video of the crash on those World's Wildest etc. TV shows.  People died in both of those, but a small number survived.
 So it appears the advice is either that there's never been a fully-survivable water landing of a passenger jet until today, or that there's never been one on the open ocean.  YMMV, indeed.
 |  the Hudson is pretty polluted, isn't it? maybe it's close to being land?
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		|  01-15-2009, 09:23 PM | #4034 |  
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					Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski  the Hudson is pretty polluted, isn't it? maybe it's close to being land? |  Don't think you would want to hit land belly-first. |  
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		|  01-15-2009, 10:51 PM | #4035 |  
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					Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski  so the safety instructions are just made up? did they have a contest to come up with them? |  I thought it was not unprecedented for a plane to skid off a runway upon takeoff or landing and end up in the water.
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