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Old 06-29-2009, 03:05 PM   #661
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Re: This is the thread where the fringster comes back with teeth

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Does anyone actually like the stuff on Bad?

I mean Thriller was an amusingly self-glorifying paeon to pop stuperstardom with a sort of cool and catchy beat, but with Bowie's "Scary Monsters" still in everyone's mind, the thing was more about parody than groundbreaking music. And, I mean, if you take a time capsule back to 1982, would you be listening to "Thriller" or "The Message"?

So Thriller was already about an aging pop idol losing it, it just made money with that general theme, and you wonder why he went downhill?

He started the slide long before Quincy Jones, when he stopped feeling the blues and started counting the change, circa age 13 or 14. But he had enough talent to release some glitzy self-aggrandizing self-parody that sold a lot of records and riveted a lot of people to MTV.
All this Quincy talk makes my mind wander to:

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Does anyone actually like the stuff on Bad?

I mean Thriller was an amusingly self-glorifying paeon to pop stuperstardom with a sort of cool and catchy beat, but with Bowie's "Scary Monsters" still in everyone's mind, the thing was more about parody than groundbreaking music. And, I mean, if you take a time capsule back to 1982, would you be listening to "Thriller" or "The Message"?

So Thriller was already about an aging pop idol losing it, it just made money with that general theme, and you wonder why he went downhill?

He started the slide long before Quincy Jones, when he stopped feeling the blues and started counting the change, circa age 13 or 14. But he had enough talent to release some glitzy self-aggrandizing self-parody that sold a lot of records and riveted a lot of people to MTV.
I like some of the Jackson 5 stuff but don't have much of an opinion on the laters stuff. And anyone who disagrees with me only does so because of past humiliating experiences involving fellatio with Michael Jackson and/or the mother(s) of one or more posters here.
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Old 06-29-2009, 03:26 PM   #663
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All this Quincy talk makes my mind wander to:

I didn't remember that Quincy M.D. had green hair (or is it just my monitor?).
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Old 06-29-2009, 03:31 PM   #664
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I didn't remember that Quincy M.D. had green hair (or is it just my monitor?).
Fugee, I think you are forgetting "Quincy, M.E.: The Punk Years."
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Old 06-29-2009, 03:36 PM   #665
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Fugee, I think you are forgetting "Quincy, M.E.: The Punk Years."
Quincy had some real talent, but I credit the best of those years to his hairdresser.
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Old 06-29-2009, 03:47 PM   #666
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Re: This is the thread where the fringster comes back with teeth

My boyfriend is DJing the wedding we're going to in NYC next weekend, and he started looking for Michael Jackson mashups to add to his sets. It seems like every dj in the world was busy taking apart Quincy Jones' masterpiece and putting it back together again. Some of them were pretty good (I really liked Franz Ferdinand vs. Beat It), and some of them were pretty crappy.

Mashuptown put together a whole two CD set of some of them, and the comment sections have more: http://www.mashuptown.com/2009/06/wi...-his.html#more
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Does anyone actually like the stuff on Bad?
Yes. Absolutely. Everyone hated Bad because (i) it came out after Thriller, which couldn't be topped and (ii) he thought that stupid fucking video was a good idea after Thriller. But Remember the Time, The Way You Make Me Feel (Latoya's appearance in the video notwithstanding), Man in the Mirror and Smooth Criminal are all good songs. The Way You Make Me Feel is one of my favorites.

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I mean Thriller was an amusingly self-glorifying paeon to pop stuperstardom with a sort of cool and catchy beat, but with Bowie's "Scary Monsters" still in everyone's mind, the thing was more about parody than groundbreaking music. And, I mean, if you take a time capsule back to 1982, would you be listening to "Thriller" or "The Message"?
I think you're misrembering 1982. As someone who was listening to both, not many people even knew about The Message back then.

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So Thriller was already about an aging pop idol losing it, it just made money with that general theme...
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Old 06-29-2009, 03:58 PM   #668
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All this Quincy talk makes my mind wander to:

when i think about alternative careers and think about acting, I don't fantasize about being Tom Cruise, I see Jack Klugman as my "reach" dream. He had a journeyman's career, but still pretty enviable:

Took over Oscar from Walter M. and had several good years there- and of course Quincy- both of those making him wealthy but he also has the honor of being in 12 Angry Men and Days of Wine and Roses, plus banging Brett Somers is pretty cool.
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when i think about alternative careers and think about acting, I don't fantasize about being Tom Cruise, I see Jack Klugman as my "reach" dream. He had a journeyman's career, but still pretty enviable:

Took over Oscar from Walter M. and had several good years there- and of course Quincy- both of those making him wealthy but he also has the honor of being in 12 Angry Men and Days of Wine and Roses, plus banging Brett Somers is pretty cool.

And he testified before Congress about medical issues. Has Tom Cruise ever testified about fighter jets, prostitutes, or bizarre orgies?
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Yes. Absolutely. Everyone hated Bad because (i) it came out after Thriller, which couldn't be topped and (ii) he thought that stupid fucking video was a good idea after Thriller. But Remember the Time, The Way You Make Me Feel (Latoya's appearance in the video notwithstanding), Man in the Mirror and Smooth Criminal are all good songs. The Way You Make Me Feel is one of my favorites.

I think you're misrembering 1982. As someone who was listening to both, not many people even knew about The Message back then.

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My boyfriend is DJing the wedding we're going to in NYC next weekend, and he started looking for Michael Jackson mashups to add to his sets. It seems like every dj in the world was busy taking apart Quincy Jones' masterpiece and putting it back together again. Some of them were pretty good (I really liked Franz Ferdinand vs. Beat It), and some of them were pretty crappy.

Mashuptown put together a whole two CD set of some of them, and the comment sections have more: http://www.mashuptown.com/2009/06/wi...-his.html#more
Not a mashup but Weird Al's "Eat It" has always cracked me up. In the mashup realm, I like Nirvana v. MJ "Smells Like Teen Billie Jean.".
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Excuse me, but I think I'm going to dance with PLF.
I'm going to think about why I thought responding to you was a good idea.

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Excuse me, but I think I'm going to dance with PLF.
Which one of you does it backwards and in heels?
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Which one of you does it backwards and in heels?
Does what?
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Which one of you does it backwards and in heels?
I'm OK with backwards but he gets the heels.
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