Election 2010: Teabaggin' the Ds & Rs - Page 58

10-11-2010, 02:19 PM

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...-a-nazi/64319/

I'm sure Hank has video of Dem candidates dressed in white hoods and stuff, so we can't really draw any conclusions, but damn - where does the GOP find these guys?

Tyrone Slothrop · 10-11-2010, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Cletus Miller

And holding onto that hope is madness. The first of the Ohio case I read about (from 2008?) made it clear that the f/c by RMBS servicer process was a big mess.

This was the logical next step in the crisis.

eta: OK, weed and I did not plan that one.

Gattigap · 10-11-2010, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ironweed

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...-a-nazi/64319/

I'm sure Hank has video of Dem candidates dressed in white hoods and stuff, so we can't really draw any conclusions, but damn - where does the GOP find these guys?

I think we can all mainly agree that today's hyperconnected and instantly scandal-chasing and judgmental world has just become too suffocating of a place for a man to enjoy his military history, nostalgia for uniforms, and overall Nazi fetishes. I mean, can't we give a Tea Partier a little room to breathe here?

10-11-2010, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Gattigap

I think we can all mainly agree that today's hyperconnected and instantly scandal-chasing and judgmental world has just become too suffocating of a place for a man to enjoy his military history, nostalgia for uniforms, and overall Nazi fetishes. I mean, can't we give a Tea Partier a little room to breathe here?

Look, there's a socially-acceptable way to telegraph your white supremacy through historical re-enactment, and don't tell me they were too far north to dress up as Confederates.

P.S. - it's Hitler Monday!

Gattigap · 10-11-2010, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ironweed

Look, there's a socially-acceptable way to telegraph your white supremacy through historical re-enactment, and don't tell me they were too far north to dress up as Confederates.

P.S. - it's Hitler Monday!

They also lack the presence of local battlefields to more easily justify their re-enactment festivals, which is a more serious shortcoming that one might first imagine.

After all, dressing up in a funny uniform and stomping around Shiloh gives you some kind of tentative, if slippery, claim to innocuous historical fetishism instead of white supremacy. Having to conduct said festival at the local Applebee's, or Phil's basement, makes the argument that much harder.

10-11-2010, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Gattigap

They also lack the presence of local battlefields to more easily justify their re-enactment festivals, which is a more serious shortcoming that one might first imagine.

After all, dressing up in a funny uniform and stomping around Shiloh gives you some kind of tentative, if slippery, claim to innocuous historical fetishism instead of white supremacy. Having to conduct said festival at the local Applebee's, or Phil's basement, makes the argument that much harder.

I'm not sure about that. My buddies and I in the "Glorious Leader Ho Chi Minh Brigade" of our local Viet Cong re-enactment society get the black pajamas out and use the local park every weekend, despite the lack of any rice paddies anywhere nearby. Hint: the inside of a tunnel looks the same no matter where you dig it!

Atticus Grinch · 10-11-2010, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sgtclub

This is fucking rich.

Even Prop 13's most ardent defenders would admit that it has failed to curb spending.* But perhaps the voters in the 1970s would not have voted for a "cut taxes + cut programs" ballot prop in the same numbers they voted for a "cut taxes and let THE GOVERNMENT figure out the rest" ballot prop.

ETA: *Adequately.

sebastian_dangerfield · 10-11-2010, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

I think we can all hope that all of the lenders had all of the papers they should have had and were simply cutting corners on how they presented them to the courts. We should be so lucky.

Hope's got nothing to do with it. We are so lucky, and any other conclusion can only be reached by:

1. An opportunist/advocate looking for a story (or class action suit); or
2. Someone who has no idea what he's talking about.

Atticus Grinch · 10-11-2010, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Cletus Miller

? How so? Defend the size of the Greek government.

Also, tyranny of the majority (or, majority of the influence), much?

Uh, isn't Greece an illustration of what happens when you fund this year's expenses with TOMORROW's taxpayers' taxes? I can only defend a system where it's "this set of programs cost X; let's all pay X in taxes this year."

Tyranny of the majority can suck my dick. Funny how it only gets trotted out for outcomes that one opposes. You think it's an accident the Founders put this power in the political branches? Worse, the Congress? Even worse, the House?!?! Tyranny of the majority, please, unless you can find a constitutional provision -- which BTW is only yesterday's tyranny writ large.

10-11-2010, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch

Tyranny of the majority can suck my dick. Funny how it only gets trotted out for outcomes that one opposes. You think it's an accident the Founders put this power in the political branches? Worse, the Congress? Even worse, the House?!?! Tyranny of the majority, please, unless you can find a constitutional provision -- which BTW is only yesterday's tyranny writ large.

I for one welcome Cletus's suggestion that society be governed by a class of philosopher kings who rule with unlimited, but benign, absolute power. What's that? No, I couldn't possibly . . . I've got so much already on my plate . . . oh, all right, go on then - but only because I care.

Tyrone Slothrop · 10-11-2010, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

Hope's got nothing to do with it. We are so lucky, and any other conclusion can only be reached by:

1. An opportunist/advocate looking for a story (or class action suit); or
2. Someone who has no idea what he's talking about.

Over to you, Cletus.

sgtclub · 10-11-2010, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch

Even Prop 13's most ardent defenders would admit that it has failed to curb spending.* But perhaps the voters in the 1970s would not have voted for a "cut taxes + cut programs" ballot prop in the same numbers they voted for a "cut taxes and let THE GOVERNMENT figure out the rest" ballot prop.

ETA: *Adequately.

That wasn't the part that got my ire. It was the condemnation of those same votes as selfish.

Pretty Little Flower · 10-11-2010, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ironweed

I for one welcome Cletus's suggestion that society be governed by a class of philosopher kings who rule with unlimited, but benign, absolute power. What's that? No, I couldn't possibly . . . I've got so much already on my plate . . . oh, all right, go on then - but only because I care.

The oh-so-precious, begging-for-an-emoticon, half-of-the-conversation posting style exhibited above underscores my already unshakeable conviction to never read this board. Ever.

Atticus Grinch · 10-11-2010, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sgtclub

That wasn't the part that got my ire. It was the condemnation of those same votes as selfish.

Every study ever done has shown that people will agree with the statement "taxes should be cut" while agreeing also that "programs should not be reduced." You think a ballot prop that cynically conveyed to the electorate that you could starve the beast without cutting programs was anything but selfish?

Tyrone Slothrop · 10-11-2010, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sgtclub

That wasn't the part that got my ire. It was the condemnation of those same votes as selfish.

This business of calculating property taxes by the last sales price instead of assessed value is ridiculous, and selfish is maybe a good word to call it. It's subsidy of people more likely to vote by people less likely to vote and others who haven't moved to the area yet, and it stinks.