Election 2010: Teabaggin' the Ds & Rs

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Cletus Miller

First, the dots are 25, not 50.

Second, it was specifically in response to your hypothesis that the dots were located at the epicenter of the various people's actual residence, which is an incorrect hypothesis. I was not taking the dots literally--that was Hank being Hank--nor was I suggesting that the dots were located based on any hidden data--that was you being you. In tracts where the population density allows, they located the dots (apparently) at random within the tract--I cannot actually assert is was for legibility, as in several locations a dot is directly under a street name and barely visible.

OK. Rest assured I do not confuse you and Hank.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

OK. Rest assured I do not confuse you and Hank.

thanks for having my back, my brother

[Penske 2.0]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

I am still confused, however, as to the basis for the accusation you're "commercial." Were you once about the music, but then sold out when the record company made an offer?

Yes. I started out with art house/Sundance ambitions and ending up taking the first offer from HBO Films. don't you have my website bookmarked?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Penske 2.0

Yes. I started out with art house/Sundance ambitions and ending up taking the first offer from HBO Films. don't you have my website bookmarked?

Sundance Channel:

1) 30% Enviromental diatribes
2) 20% Anti Israeli diatribes
3) 28% Romances about homosexual couples
4) 12% reruns of "The Comeback"
5) 8% independant films that do not fall into one of categories 1-3
6) 2 % Cities on speed

[Penske 2.0]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Sundance Channel:

1) 30% Enviromental diatribes
2) 20% Anti Israeli diatribes
3) 28% Romances about homosexual couples
4) 12% reruns of "The Comeback"
5) 8% independant films that do not fall into one of categories 1-3
6) 2 % Cities on speed

I making movies before there was a Sundance channel, but, regardless, it was #5 stuff.

[Penske 2.0]

Bloomberg. He's lucky NYers are only exercising their 1st Am rights, instead of their 2nd Am rights.

Even the Daleys know better than to fuck up the snow clearance.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

People talking past each other:

In May, Gov. Jan Brewer signed a law banning the state’s schools from teaching ethnic studies classes, defined as history, anthropology and literature courses designed to teach the stories, histories, struggles and triumphs of people of color through their own unique perspectives.

Specifically, the law targets Mexican-American studies programs taught in Tucson schools, where 60 percent of the students are of Mexican descent. The bill (HB2281) passed by the Legislature states that schools will lose state funding if they offer any courses that “promote the overthrow of the U.S. government, promote resentment of a particular race or class of people, are designed primarily for students of a particular ethnic group or advocate ethnic solidarity instead of the treatment of pupils as individuals.” This law will cut the Tucson school district’s budget by $36 million a year if they continue to teach ethnic studies courses.

State Superintendent of Public Instruction Tom Horne, who wrote part of the law, said the ethnic studies classes were “dividing kids up by race” and teaching students that “the entire governmental system is solely the product of the white power structure”.

Supporters of ethnic studies courses in Arizona told The New York Times that the program does not violate federal laws or promote treason but the courses “offers factual information; for example in the Mexican-American Studies program, an American history course explores the role of Hispanics in the Vietnam War, and a literature course emphasizes Latino authors. The students learn, for example, that Arizona was once part of Mexico, and that in the 1960s Chicano radicals called for reclaiming the land."

PBS

I do not think that public schools should be promoting the overthrow of the United States government. But it's pretty easy to imagine an ethnic studies program that doesn't fit the characteristics in the second and third paragraphs above, e.g., what's described in the fourth paragraph. And I'm not sure where the first paragraph comes from, since what it says is banned is much more than what's in the quote in the second paragraph.

[Penske 2.0]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

People talking past each other:

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New board motto?

[Penske 2.0]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

I do not think that public schools should be promoting the overthrow of the United States government. .

I don't normally respond to the same post twice, but in this case I will make a special exception......

Does it perhaps split the difference to offer to give Arizona back? win-win? No offence.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Penske 2.0

Does it perhaps split the difference to offer to give Arizona back? win-win?

I think that's called addition-by-subtraction. No offence.

[Cletus Miller]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

One problem with education reform is that most voters don't care. In the exit polling I saw, voters in Washington D.C. with kids in the public schools voted for Fenty, and by a larger proportion than any other group identified.

Another problem is the Teacher's Unions, with Chicago's union calling for the return of a school board.

[Cletus Miller]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

I think that's called addition-by-subtraction. No offence.

We can give him back? I thought it was only honourary and he's actually from here?

No offence.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

promote resentment of a particular race or class of people...

I hope they don't purchase any of those Texas textbooks. There is a lot of resentment of any number of races and classes coming out of those....

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

I hope they don't purchase any of those Texas textbooks. There is a lot of resentment of any number of races and classes coming out of those....

isn't history basically all about 1 kind of people killing other kinds?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Cletus Miller

Another problem is the Teacher's Unions, with Chicago's union calling for the return of a school board.

In the large city in which I have lived and in which I have sent my children to public schools, the head of the public schools has been fighting with the teachers unions. I have supported the head in this, publicly, and notwithstanding efforts by my kids' teachers to get parents to put signs in their yards supporting the unions. So if anyone (hi Penske!) is laboring under the misapprehension that I support teachers unions, there you go.

But blaming the teachers unions for the state of the schools is a fool's errand. They're just profit-maximizing, like any firm would. They have every right to call for the return of a school board, however misguided that is.