Election 2010: Teabaggin' the Ds & Rs

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Gattigap

I think the issue is an interesting one, but I don't attribute this kind of deep thinking to the neocons and GOP stalwarts (or to any hawkish Dems, for that matter.) After all, sometimes a dunderhead blathering on cable is simply a dunderhead.

Sometimes, yes. And sometimes the dunderhead is Cheney or Rumsfeld, each of whom lived in a strange world inhabited by all nature of darkly colored demons.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

The argument against that proposition - "Clinton did it and it raised revenues!" - isn't applicable in an economy this globalized.

Speed of money v. speed of legislation. Not even a race. And the drop in activity in advance, based on mere fear of a raise in taxes, doubles the negative effect.

Really, give me a break. You are above this nonsense.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Penske 2.0

If I were to move off shore, where to go? I am currently considering deals in the UK and N. Africa, but not sure I want to reside in either place.

You should go to Somalia. I hear there's very little government -- it's a libertarian's dream.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Curiously enough, a dish that was introduced to India by the Portuguese.

The good thing about our pending economic conquest by India is the food. Someday, we'll purge our bloody English gastronomic inheritance.

[Penske 2.0]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

Why go to California (or Massachusetts for that matter) unless you need a highly educated, world class work force or proximity to a major market and significant capital?

You can't be everything to everyone. But I'd rather be California than Arizona or Kansas.

Also in CA you get suffocating and costly regulation administered by a failing bureaucracy. I would much rather do business in either of Arizona or Kansas than CA, and am looking at business opportunities in both [true story] but, in fairness, I don't make wine or movies.

I would do business in MA, but mostly because I want a crack at your wine cellar. NPI. nttawwt.

[Penske 2.0]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Curiously enough, a dish that was introduced to India by the Portuguese.

I think that's a whiff. AoNoT, I like Port.

[Penske 2.0]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

You should go to Somalia. I hear there's very little government -- it's a libertarian's dream.

Would the pirate beard help me?

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Penske 2.0

Also in CA you get suffocating and costly regulation administered by a failing bureaucracy. I would much rather do business in either of Arizona or Kansas than CA, and am looking at business opportunities in both [true story] but, in fairness, I don't make wine or movies.

I would do business in MA, but mostly because I want a crack at your wine cellar. NPI. nttawwt.

The single best thing about Massachusetts: the healthcare. Really. If people retired here instead of Florida, they'd live much, much longer.

Someone should figure out how to market that to old folks.

We'd all live longer, though, with a bit more Cos in our lives (something I haven't drunk for several months.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

I disagree with his mantra that we need to have a middle class consuming to have a robust economy.

Really? That's the part I thought you would have agreed with.

They want the best returns and they can do that without hiring people.

Ah. Apparently you have a different definition of robust economy.

[sgtclub]

Originally Posted by Cletus Miller

Define "large".

I don't recall precisely, but the jist was that they were measuring it by those providing jobs in the state - they were tying the exodus to high unemployment.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Penske 2.0

Would the pirate beard help me?

Doubtless.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Penske 2.0

I think that's a whiff. AoNoT, I like Port.

Legal Seafoods has been doing a "flight of ports" thing where you get three ports, a 10, 20 and 30 year, to sample. Very tasty.

[Cletus Miller]

Originally Posted by sgtclub

I don't recall precisely, but the jist was that they were measuring it by those providing jobs in the state - they were tying the exodus to high unemployment.

Ah, that makes some sense. I wasn't getting how 100s of high revenue cos HQ'd in CA had already left and hundreds more were going to. Moving EEs out state fits better.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by sgtclub

Money is fungible.

Yeah, that was my point. The trust fund is a fiction.

Essentially, borrowing from the SS trust fund then is essentially borrowing from the public now, because we will sell bonds now to pay the SS obligations.

Honestly, I'm not sure what you are trying to say, and in particular what you mean by now vs. then.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

Did you read what I said about taxing the rich not providing anywhere near the revenue needed to cover what we owe and have promised?

Actually I think you said we could take taxes back to where they were in the 1950s and not have enough. I suspect that's wrong (although not so easy to calculate).

Raise taxes all you like, revenue will remain near constant.

You can't possibly believe this.

Money's moving a lot faster, and the emerging markets are a lot bigger and more business friendly than they were historically, and that trend is accelerating exponentially. Whatever you cite will be hoeplessly dated.)

I think your sense of proportion is out of whack.