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					Originally Posted by Adder  You jump from that to repeating that we could have had cost containment first.  While that's literally true, as we have discussed before, it ignores the facts that that isn't what those in power wanted to do, and it isn't even something those in the minority raised seriously either. | 
	
 Exactly who would have voted for Medicare cuts as a stand alone, nevermind proposing the bill.  We also *could* have cut the defense budget to zero, but they have about the same level of support in Congress.