LawTalkers  

Go Back   LawTalkers > General Discussion > Politics

» Site Navigation
 > FAQ
» Online Users: 237
0 members and 237 guests
No Members online
Most users ever online was 9,654, 05-18-2025 at 04:16 AM.
Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-11-2011, 12:01 AM   #4966
sebastian_dangerfield
Moderator
 
sebastian_dangerfield's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Monty Capuletti's gazebo
Posts: 26,231
Re: I don't think it's a a McLuhan thing.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop View Post
You'll have to ask Hank and Penske why they get so excited about the medium instead of the message.
The sausage is made almost as badly in all of them now. The layoffs in journalism are so bad I'm tempted to argue blog fact checking might be around 80% as good these days.

Taibbi's best selling point is he doesn't know what he's talking about. He's writing with a liberal Joe Sixpack's eye and it's resonating with people who otherwise can't wrap their heads around the conflicting and confusing methodologies of finance.

I like him better when he's doing politics. That's low and simple and slices it apart nicely. He's no HST, but a guy who's unafraid to write as he speaks is always a welcome read for me. And I think he really tries to stay as close to the middle as a lefty can be, which is probably what a good reporter/editorialist ought to be.
__________________
All is for the best in the best of all possible worlds.
sebastian_dangerfield is offline  
Old 01-11-2011, 12:12 AM   #4967
sebastian_dangerfield
Moderator
 
sebastian_dangerfield's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Monty Capuletti's gazebo
Posts: 26,231
Re: I don't think it's a a McLuhan thing.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Penske 2.0 View Post
I'm not sure it's the medium. The nytimes, worldnetdaily.com and the blogs you cite are all delivered in the same medium,i.e. Internet content; only one of three has a message that has credibility, notwithstanding jayson Blair.
The Times is recovering, thankfully. There was a spell there when the economy got really shaky where their articles became terribly thin and dull. You could almost sense they were just looking for text they didn't have to check too much to stuff into the pages.

The Journal's Oped page is beginning to piss me off. Murdoch's quest to bludgeon the Times is turning it into a rant column farting the same "We hate [Obama/Unions/Progressives]" shit over and over. I'm fine with those criticisms, but make the shit interesting. And for God's sake, somebody throw Peggy Noonan out a fucking window. Her lamentations for a better day when "men and women knew their place," we all ate dinner together and everybody loved Jesus gives me worse gas than broccoli rabe sauteed in fresh garlic. You're a dried up old bitch, Peggy. Nobody wants to hear your shit about how the Royal Family should behave in a more austere fashion in a Saturday column. Go away. Your time is past and, unlike Andy Rooney, who remains endearing and open minded beneath his crotchety exterior, you come off like a sour wanna-be elitist fart. Fuck off. Take a trip around the world and leave someone who has a sense of humor to use the space.
__________________
All is for the best in the best of all possible worlds.

Last edited by sebastian_dangerfield; 01-11-2011 at 12:18 AM..
sebastian_dangerfield is offline  
Old 01-11-2011, 12:46 AM   #4968
Penske 2.0
Registered User
 
Penske 2.0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: The Duchy of Penske
Posts: 2,088
Re: Election 2010: Teabaggin' the Ds & Rs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch View Post
Necessity is the mother of invention. I don't remember who invented it, but there were a number who made it necessary.
No, actually the primary, if not sole, necessitating poster was me. You are showing your ignorance. Post something about religion..you are good at that topic, or at least you seem to be.
__________________
Man I smashed it like an Idaho potato!
Penske 2.0 is offline  
Old 01-11-2011, 01:06 AM   #4969
Tyrone Slothrop
Moderasaurus Rex
 
Tyrone Slothrop's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 33,080
Re: I don't think it's a a McLuhan thing.

Quote:
Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield View Post
Taibbi's no HST, ...
Really, who is?
__________________
“It was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
Tyrone Slothrop is offline  
Old 01-11-2011, 01:40 AM   #4970
Penske 2.0
Registered User
 
Penske 2.0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: The Duchy of Penske
Posts: 2,088
Re: I don't think it's a a McLuhan thing.

Quote:
Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield View Post
The Times is recovering, thankfully. There was a spell there when the economy got really shaky where their articles became terribly thin and dull. You could almost sense they were just looking for text they didn't have to check too much to stuff into the pages.

The Journal's Oped page is beginning to piss me off. Murdoch's quest to bludgeon the Times is turning it into a rant column farting the same "We hate [Obama/Unions/Progressives]" shit over and over. I'm fine with those criticisms, but make the shit interesting. And for God's sake, somebody throw Peggy Noonan out a fucking window. Her lamentations for a better day when "men and women knew their place," we all ate dinner together and everybody loved Jesus gives me worse gas than broccoli rabe sauteed in fresh garlic. You're a dried up old bitch, Peggy. Nobody wants to hear your shit about how the Royal Family should behave in a more austere fashion in a Saturday column. Go away. Your time is past and, unlike Andy Rooney, who remains endearing and open minded beneath his crotchety exterior, you come off like a sour wanna-be elitist fart. Fuck off. Take a trip around the world and leave someone who has a sense of humor to use the space.
To her credit, Peggy Noonan is one of the few over 90 year old woman whom I would consider having the sex with. fwiw. nttawwt.
__________________
Man I smashed it like an Idaho potato!
Penske 2.0 is offline  
Old 01-11-2011, 01:47 AM   #4971
Tyrone Slothrop
Moderasaurus Rex
 
Tyrone Slothrop's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 33,080
Re: I don't think it's a a McLuhan thing.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Penske 2.0 View Post
To her credit, Peggy Noonan is one of the few over 90 year old woman whom I would consider having the sex with. fwiw. nttawwt.
If this is the kick-off to a K-race, let me just say, "ick."

Otherwise, carry on.
__________________
“It was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
Tyrone Slothrop is offline  
Old 01-11-2011, 01:53 AM   #4972
Penske 2.0
Registered User
 
Penske 2.0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: The Duchy of Penske
Posts: 2,088
Re: I don't think it's a a McLuhan thing.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop View Post
If this is the kick-off to a K-race, let me just say, "ick."

Otherwise, carry on.
All's fair in love, war and K races....
__________________
Man I smashed it like an Idaho potato!
Penske 2.0 is offline  
Old 01-11-2011, 08:30 AM   #4973
Adder
I am beyond a rank!
 
Adder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 17,175
Re: Election 2010: Teabaggin' the Ds & Rs

Quote:
Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield View Post
It's preferable to, and more likely to find success, than this imbecilic symbolic vote, isn't it? And that's the comparison I was making.
Depends on your goal. And I think Hank nailed the GOP thinking on that.
Adder is offline  
Old 01-11-2011, 09:52 AM   #4974
Cletus Miller
the poor-man's spuckler
 
Cletus Miller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 4,997
Re: Election 2010: Teabaggin' the Ds & Rs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Penske 2.0 View Post
I invented this board on infirm.
Thurgreed beat you to posting on it, tho.
__________________
never incredibly annoying
Cletus Miller is offline  
Old 01-11-2011, 09:53 AM   #4975
Cletus Miller
the poor-man's spuckler
 
Cletus Miller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 4,997
Re: Election 2010: Teabaggin' the Ds & Rs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Adder View Post
Depends on your goal. And I think Hank nailed the GOP thinking on that.
Is this reverse psychology? Trying to get Hank to change his view by agreeing with him?
__________________
never incredibly annoying
Cletus Miller is offline  
Old 01-11-2011, 10:06 AM   #4976
Sidd Finch
I am beyond a rank!
 
Sidd Finch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 11,873
Moonbeam for President?

I don't have a full handle on the specifics of his proposals yet, but Brown's tone is exactly right for the times. I wish more politicians would be honest in this way:

"It's better to take our medicine now and get the state on a balanced footing."

"What I propose will be painful. It's going to take sacrifice from every sector of California, but for 10 years this state has put together its budget with gimmicks and tricks and unrealistic expectations that have pushed this state deeper and deeper into debt."
__________________
Where are my elephants?!?!
Sidd Finch is offline  
Old 01-11-2011, 10:09 AM   #4977
Adder
I am beyond a rank!
 
Adder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 17,175
Re: Election 2010: Teabaggin' the Ds & Rs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cletus Miller View Post
Is this reverse psychology? Trying to get Hank to change his view by agreeing with him?
I'm only agreeing with him that the Rs would rather try to beat up the Ds in the next election cycle rather than repeal it. That seems pretty obvious to me.
Adder is offline  
Old 01-11-2011, 10:14 AM   #4978
Tyrone Slothrop
Moderasaurus Rex
 
Tyrone Slothrop's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 33,080
Re: Moonbeam for President?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sidd Finch View Post
I don't have a full handle on the specifics of his proposals yet, but Brown's tone is exactly right for the times. I wish more politicians would be honest in this way:

"It's better to take our medicine now and get the state on a balanced footing."

"What I propose will be painful. It's going to take sacrifice from every sector of California, but for 10 years this state has put together its budget with gimmicks and tricks and unrealistic expectations that have pushed this state deeper and deeper into debt."
I like what I hear from him. I hope the legislators will play ball.
__________________
“It was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
Tyrone Slothrop is offline  
Old 01-11-2011, 10:19 AM   #4979
Cletus Miller
the poor-man's spuckler
 
Cletus Miller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 4,997
Re: Election 2010: Teabaggin' the Ds & Rs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Adder View Post
I'm only agreeing with him that the Rs would rather try to beat up the Ds in the next election cycle rather than repeal it. That seems pretty obvious to me.
The Rs look primed to act like the Ds on that, tho, passing stupid bills with stupid, expensive carve-outs/add-ons/exclusions that the Ds, if they can pull their heads out (doubtful, of course), would be able to say "we're voting against this b/c it's fiscally irresponsible and will increase the deficit".
__________________
never incredibly annoying
Cletus Miller is offline  
Old 01-11-2011, 10:20 AM   #4980
Adder
I am beyond a rank!
 
Adder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 17,175
Skeleton indeed.

Perhaps I should read the whole thing, but this certainly doesn't make Assange sounds uncrazy.
Adder is offline  
Closed Thread


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.0.1

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:57 AM.