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		|  05-09-2011, 06:16 PM | #241 |  
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		|  05-09-2011, 06:51 PM | #242 |  
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					Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop   |  Doctors are overpaid?  These shitheads do considerable damage to their credibility by demonstrating a complete lack of understanding of the cost of medical school loans, and the opportunity cost of being out of the workforce for what - six, seven years?  The rest of the points are worth making, and insightful.  But as to the doctor pay one, I'd like ten minutes alone with the these fucks in an alleyway... a well lit one one where I could show them the monthly loan payments the average doc makes, and the insurance bills he pays.  
 
I'm sure everybody married to a health care provider feels the same.  Doctors should always be among the highest paid professionals.  When they aren't, you know a culture's priorities are way the fuck out of whack.
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		|  05-09-2011, 07:03 PM | #243 |  
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					Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield  Doctors are overpaid?  These shitheads do considerable damage to their credibility by demonstrating a complete lack of understanding of the cost of medical school loans, and the opportunity cost of being out of the workforce for what - six, seven years?  The rest of the points are worth making, and insightful.  But as to the doctor pay one, I'd like ten minutes alone with the these fucks in an alleyway... a well lit one one where I could show them the monthly loan payments the average doc makes, and the insurance bills he pays.  
 I'm sure everybody married to a health care provider feels the same.  Doctors should always be among the highest paid professionals.  When they aren't, you know a culture's priorities are way the fuck out of whack.
 |  plus, they pay a huge % of what they make for malpractice insurance, cuz of Ty and his trial lawyer fellow travelers.
 
Hey Ty! what do our malpractice insurance costs look like compared to France?
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		|  05-09-2011, 07:04 PM | #244 |  
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					Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield  Doctors are overpaid?  These shitheads do considerable damage to their credibility by demonstrating a complete lack of understanding of the cost of medical school loans, and the opportunity cost of being out of the workforce for what - six, seven years?  The rest of the points are worth making, and insightful.  But as to the doctor pay one, I'd like ten minutes alone with the these fucks in an alleyway... a well lit one one where I could show them the monthly loan payments the average doc makes, and the insurance bills he pays.  
 I'm sure everybody married to a health care provider feels the same.  Doctors should always be among the highest paid professionals.  When they aren't, you know a culture's priorities are way the fuck out of whack.
 |  Isn't that just an argument that (1) medical education is too expensive, and (2) the malpractice piece of health insurance is *also* broken?
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		|  05-09-2011, 07:08 PM | #245 |  
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					Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield  Doctors are overpaid?  These shitheads do considerable damage to their credibility by demonstrating a complete lack of understanding of the cost of medical school loans, and the opportunity cost of being out of the workforce for what - six, seven years?  The rest of the points are worth making, and insightful.  But as to the doctor pay one, I'd like ten minutes alone with the these fucks in an alleyway... a well lit one one where I could show them the monthly loan payments the average doc makes, and the insurance bills he pays.  
 I'm sure everybody married to a health care provider feels the same.  Doctors should always be among the highest paid professionals.  When they aren't, you know a culture's priorities are way the fuck out of whack.
 |  There are some overpaid doctors.  The idea that cataract cowboys are at the top of the opthamology heap, for example, reflects some strange outcomes born from our third party payor systems.  On the other hand, the fact that private pay nip and tuck compensates better than fixing up the faces of mauled kids is just a product of capitalism.
 
But you can't pay a good neuro- or cardiac- surgeon enough, and the top radiologists who read my xrays probably aren't paid anywhere near what they are worth.
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		|  05-09-2011, 08:01 PM | #246 |  
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					Originally Posted by Cletus Miller  Isn't that just an argument that (1) medical education is too expensive, and (2) the malpractice piece of health insurance is *also* broken? |  We could tax Wall Street more and induce all those budding financial types to pursue a career in medicine again.  Win-win.
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		|  05-09-2011, 08:47 PM | #247 |  
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					Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop  We could tax Wall Street more and induce all those budding financial types to pursue a career in medicine again.  Win-win. |  That would simply send them abroad.  Doubt that?  How many of your friends in finance have moved abroad in the past couple years?
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		|  05-09-2011, 09:01 PM | #248 |  
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					Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop  We could tax Wall Street more and induce all those budding financial types to pursue a career in medicine again.  Win-win. |  can't you guys find a constitutional way to control costs?
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 do any of the Libs feel embarrassed that team-obama almost let wikileaks waste the intel on osama that W generated? 
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		|  05-09-2011, 09:42 PM | #250 |  
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					Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski  can't you guys find a constitutional way to control costs? |  So taxing Wall Street is unconstitutional too now?  I suppose that was predictable.
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		|  05-09-2011, 10:21 PM | #251 |  
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					Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy  There are some overpaid doctors.  The idea that cataract cowboys are at the top of the opthamology heap, for example, reflects some strange outcomes born from our third party payor systems.  On the other hand, the fact that private pay nip and tuck compensates better than fixing up the faces of mauled kids is just a product of capitalism.
 But you can't pay a good neuro- or cardiac- surgeon enough, and the top radiologists who read my xrays probably aren't paid anywhere near what they are worth.
 |  I used to do some agreements for interventionist radiologists for about 700k a year for 15 days a month of work. This was nearly a decade ago.
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		|  05-09-2011, 10:28 PM | #252 |  
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					Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop  So taxing Wall Street is unconstitutional too now?  I suppose that was predictable. |  I'm not saying it is, I'm just saying the question is one you lot don't ask, so it always might be.
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		|  05-09-2011, 11:04 PM | #253 |  
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					Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan  I used to do some agreements for interventionist radiologists for about 700k a year for 15 days a month of work. This was nearly a decade ago. |  Must have been rock stars at that. Cardio?
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		|  05-09-2011, 11:05 PM | #254 |  
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					Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop  So taxing Wall Street is unconstitutional too now?  I suppose that was predictable. |  I think that depends on whether it's being done by the Dems or Rs, doesn't it?
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		|  05-09-2011, 11:14 PM | #255 |  
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					Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski  I'm not saying it is, I'm just saying the question is one you lot don't ask, so it always might be. |  If the charge is that I don't spend a lot of time trying to accommodate policy to the whacky, anti-Obama constitutional theories the GOP has discovered in the last couple of years, I plead guilty as charged.
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