My God, you are an idiot.

[sgtclub]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Seriously. Where does it go? The government spends it on what? How do you explain this?

They overpay. I have a client whose main customer is a fed agency. The client (a smaller company in the industry), can do projects for a 10th of what the big industry players charge. The numbers are astounding. We are talking hundreds of millions per project of waste.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by sgtclub

They overpay. I have a client whose main customer is a fed agency. The client (a smaller company in the industry), can do projects for a 10th of what the big industry players charge. The numbers are astounding. We are talking hundreds of millions per project of waste.

The point of stimulus is to stimulate the economy. What you are calling waste may not be the most efficient way to spend the money if all you are concerned about is getting the most bang for the government buck, but it does not explain how it takes $250K to create a job. Obviously, the money is going somewhere, which means it's stimulating the economy.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

I'm sure the concrete/cement thing was just a slip. Sorry to mention it.

Forgot. You had a senior seminar in "things working class people know."

But before I remembered I was dumbing it down for you..........and Sidd.

[sgtclub]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

The point of stimulus is to stimulate the economy. What you are calling waste may not be the most efficient way to spend the money if all you are concerned about is getting the most bang for the government buck, but it does not explain how it takes $250K to create a job. Obviously, the money is going somewhere, which means it's stimulating the economy.

Really? Are you really saying this?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

The point of stimulus is to stimulate the economy. What you are calling waste may not be the most efficient way to spend the money if all you are concerned about is getting the most bang for the government buck, but it does not explain how it takes $250K to create a job. Obviously, the money is going somewhere, which means it's stimulating the economy.

but I spend X no matter, and i'm the same as the guy who owns the company which is redoing our expressways. 20% of the "stimulus" is going into his savings. "Look. he's buying Opus!" guess what numb nuts, he would be anyway.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by sgtclub

Really? Are you really saying this?

careful club. we're not allowed to say they're dim, and remember, Ty's their intellectual.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by sgtclub

Really? Are you really saying this?

Yes. I still don't understand where you think that money is going. You're telling a Just-So Story that explains why the government is less efficient than business. Fine: I agree with the point, more or less. But in the current economic circumstances, businesses aren't investing, and there's no reason to think government spending is displacing private spending. That's why we need stimulus. If the government is spending that money, it's going into the economy.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Forgot. You had a senior seminar in "things working class people know."

But before I remembered I was dumbing it down for you..........and Sidd.

Just because I don't blow my own horn about it doesn't mean I didn't experience like yours.

[sgtclub]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Yes. I still don't understand where you think that money is going. You're telling a Just-So Story that explains why the government is less efficient than business. Fine: I agree with point, more or less. But in the current economic circumstances, businesses aren't investing, and there's no reason to think government spending is displacing private spending. That's why we need stimulus.

Where it's not going is to anything creating jobs, which was the point of this exercise.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Just because I don't blow my own horn about it doesn't mean I didn't experience like yours.

not to brag, but I have a really long tongue and can lick my own horn, not blow it, but still, I'm kicking you lot's ass. no offense.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by sgtclub

Where it's not going is to anything creating jobs, which was the point of this exercise.

it's going into the pockets of some Dem fatcat, who will be the equivalent of the Joe Kennedy for our grandkids. meanwhile teachers are being laid off. Sad.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by sgtclub

Where it's not going is to anything creating jobs, which was the point of this exercise.

Which is where?

Never mind. You obviously have an ideological commitment to the idea that it's ineffective, rather than some sort of view about what is actually happening.

I'm also curious about how it is that you think that cutting deficits now will improve the economy, but I suspect it's more of the same.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

not to brag, but I have a really long tongue and can lick my own horn, not blow it, but still, I'm kicking you lot's ass. no offense.

So this is what having my ass kicked is like? Good to know.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Which is where?

Never mind. You obviously have an ideological commitment to the idea that it's ineffective, rather than some sort of view about what is actually happening.

I'm also curious about how it is that you think that cutting deficits now will improve the economy, but I suspect it's more of the same.

2. let's move on. how about let's remember how the Bush administration would keep us under it's thumb by playing the terrorism threat card?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

So this is what having my ass kicked is like? Good to know.

if you wanted your ass licked, shoulda tried to date mr royesbaoecngp's wife. nothing personal in my turn down.