My God, you are an idiot.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Atrios nails it:

Just a reminder that there is no debt ceiling crisis. There's a fake crisis started by Republicans and then embraced by the White House so that everyone gets to use the fake crisis to try to do unpopular things in such a way that nobody, in theory, actually gets the blame.

A few people need to show up in Congress in the middle of the night, cast a voice vote, and we can move on to the next fake crisis.

This is so fucking irritating.

[Cletus Miller]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

Question: how are people determining the per-job cost of the stimulus bill? Perhaps someone can send me to a cite or site where that calculation is made.

As Hank would say, am I on ignore? $1T cost, 4,000,000 jobs. $250,000 per job.

I also believe that Holtz-Eakin or some other ass endorsed the simplistic calculation sometime in January or February of 2009.

[LessinSF]

Originally Posted by Adder

Your view is that the Black Death was stimulative? I believe that's at odds with historical economic understanding.

What economic effect do you think would occur if a plague was introduced, transmittable only by the interior of an envelope that delivers food stamps?

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Cletus Miller

As Hank would say, am I on ignore? $1T cost, 4,000,000 jobs. $250,000 per job.

I also believe that Holtz-Eakin or some other ass endorsed the simplistic calculation sometime in January or February of 2009.

Query: do you think every provision in the stimulus package was geared toward job production? Was it all geared to job production in year one?

So the 10% that went to Medicaid, for example, was that a jobs program? How about the National Science Foundation research grants? Or the funds for unemployment insurance?

I agree that the $285 million of tax breaks were likely very expensive ways to produce jobs, but the Rs insisted on those. But the grants made to arts organizations specifically conditioned on preserving or creating jobs: there I'll bet there was real efficiency, since hiring in the arts is pretty cheap.

But, shit, can't I get a clubby response or somethign. Arguing with someone whose going to agree with me is kind of dull.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

Look, you're the one concluding the cost per job was extraordinarily high, a conclusion neither you nor Michele Bachmann nor Clubby seem to be giving me a source for - I understand why Michele and Clubby don't want to think about the question.

And what is this google-bitch bitch - are you getting lazy on a Friday?

Blow me. I didn't cite a specific number. My view that it was inefficient is mostly based on the inherent inefficiency of tax cuts as a job-creating tool.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by LessinSF

What economic effect do you think would occur if a plague was introduced, transmittable only by the interior of an envelope that delivers food stamps?

How about we just make them eat their babies instead?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

Query: do you think every provision in the stimulus package was geared toward job production? Was it all geared to job production in year one?

So the 10% that went to Medicaid, for example, was that a jobs program? How about the National Science Foundation research grants? Or the funds for unemployment insurance?

I agree that the $285 million of tax breaks were likely very expensive ways to produce jobs, but the Rs insisted on those. But the grants made to arts organizations specifically conditioned on preserving or creating jobs: there I'll bet there was real efficiency, since hiring in the arts is pretty cheap.

But, shit, can't I get a clubby response or somethign. Arguing with someone whose going to agree with me is kind of dull.

how many jobs did the $900,000 study of how gay men's dick sizes relates to top/bottom preference create?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by LessinSF

What economic effect do you think would occur if a plague was introduced, transmittable only by the interior of an envelope that delivers food stamps?

sidd thinks the very poor pay tons of taxes. the economy might crash.

Originally Posted by LessinSF

What economic effect do you think would occur if a plague was introduced, transmittable only by the interior of an envelope that delivers food stamps?

Nice.

Speaking of people with nothing to contribute to society, you still haven't answered my question about the late-night bars list.

[LessinSF]

Originally Posted by Adder

How about we just make them eat their babies instead?

I see you have conceded.

[LessinSF]

Originally Posted by ironweed

Nice.

Speaking of people with nothing to contribute to society, you still haven't answered my question about the late-night bars list.

Ah, I figured you would have solved that at home.

Mister H. http://travel.usatoday.com/destinati...bars-/177722/1

[LessinSF]

Give me back my 1970's hair spray - http://content.usatoday.com/communit...re-volcanoes/1 (aerosols inhibiting global warming)

[LessinSF]

Originally Posted by LessinSF

Give me back my 1970's hair spray - http://content.usatoday.com/communit...re-volcanoes/1 (aerosols inhibiting global warming)

At least I have my own Facebook fan page.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by LessinSF

At least I have my own Facebook fan page.

Me too

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Sidd Finch

Blow me. I didn't cite a specific number. My view that it was inefficient is mostly based on the inherent inefficiency of tax cuts as a job-creating tool.

Sometimes, as attorneys age, they start to lose their edge, cutting corners, citing facts they pull out of their ass, trying to cover for it with half-baked bravado or half-thought out excuses (mad cow!).

It's good to see Hank is getting some company over at Penske's Medicaid Palace.