My God, you are an idiot.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by SlaveNoMore

Mubarak was a royal [?] prick, but he was our prick, and he kept the Muslim Brotherhood in check. Your guy threw him under the bus, and the crazies are now taking over the asylum. And Israel is now in immediate danger as a result.

Mubarak didn't go down because Obama threw him under the bus -- more narcissism -- and what I read yesterday made it pretty clear that it wasn't the Muslim Brotherhood that was storming the Israeli embassy. [eta: Who needs religious extremism when you have nationalism? Egyptians are upset about the border guards who were killed recently.] Israel is in danger, but it is hardly the fault of Obama's so-called "anti-Semitism."

eta:

“The protesters took the bait,” Big Pharaoh said. “Tomorrow will anyone talk about justice or military trials? No, they’ll all talk about the Israeli Embassy.”

link

Junior DB in Syria is probably far worse than Mubarak, yet we do nothing there. Oh, and he's a Hamas (and Iran, if we're counting) puppet.

Is he our prick too? No. So what do you propose we do?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by LessinSF

And, the continuing saga of how well Obama's poster child treated the common worker who needs a job - http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...BUFF1L1RQV.DTL

I had never heard this company linked to Obama until it went bankrupt, and your article says:

Solyndra's loans came from a U.S. Department of Energy program that was created by President Bush in 2005 but became part of Obama's economic stimulus package in 2009. Solyndra, which applied for the money in 2006, received conditional approval for the program's very first loan, in March 2009.

Yep -- Obama's clearly engineered it all.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

The idea that the protests in Egypt have much to do with Obama and his Secretary of State and their "weakness" or "anti-Semitism" -- really, you ought to be ashamed that you said that, but you won't be -- is the sort of narcissistic thinking that makes the rest of the world shake their heads at Americans. It must be all about us, right? It makes your crediting W. for what happened in Libya look positively sane by comparison.

A guy who raised money for Obama has a stupid idea, w won't give money, Obama gets in and 2 months later the guy gets a half billion.

Me I ask a question and I get called stupid. I wonder if I'd raised money for Obama if my stupid posts would get me sweet gov money, I mean my posts are green.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Yep -- Obama's clearly engineered it all.

would you walk us through how your brain works? A loan is frozen for 3 years. Obama gets in and 2 months later it' unfrozen and to you that's proof that nothing suspicious happened. Fucking nuts.

[LessinSF]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Yep -- Obama's clearly engineered it all.

http://video.search.yahoo.com/search...F-8&fr=fp-yie9

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

A guy who raised money for Obama has a stupid idea, w won't give money, Obama gets in and 2 months later the guy gets a half billion.

Me I ask a question and I get called stupid. I wonder if I'd raised money for Obama if my stupid posts would get me sweet gov money, I mean my posts are green.

You're not stupid but you did say a stupid thing. A couple of them in one post, actually. And you oughtto be ashamed of calling Obama anti-Semitic. Among other things, you cheapen the word.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by LessinSF

http://video.search.yahoo.com/search...F-8&fr=fp-yie9

?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

You're not stupid but you did say a stupid thing. A couple of them in one post, actually. And you oughtto be ashamed of calling Obama anti-Semitic. Among other things, you cheapen the word.

I didn't call Obama anti-semetic. I said at least one of he and Hil are at least one of "weak" and anti-semetic.

Perhaps you have a cleaner explanation for why they left Israel hanging. Tell us the facts instead of attacking me.

and the indignation is rich, considering you have refused to delete troll posts here accusing some of us of being anti-semetic or racist or homophobic. you want to have the moral ground to insist socks don't slur others here, then you should delete 80% of GGG's posts.

[LessinSF]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

?

You are being intentionally obtuse.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by LessinSF

You are being intentionally obtuse.

actually he is being exactly himself.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by LessinSF

You are being intentionally obtuse.

I was on an iPhone yesterday and couldn't figure out what you meant by that page and just shouldn't have posted. Now I've looked from a desktop, and as best as I can tell Obama visited the factory once. Seriously, give me a break. The business coverage that I saw about Solyndra's bankruptcy had a bunch of people saying that US solar producers can't compete with Chinese producers with state subsidies (oh the irony), and a few saying that Solyndra made a bad bet in light of what then happened in the market. And it's not like Solyndra is alone:

Solyndra is only one of many solar energy companies around the world struggling recently, due in large part to rising costs of materials and weaker-than-expected demand for panels, which have led to a sharp rise in mergers and acquisitions compared with last year.

Germany has long been a solar powerhouse, but one of its companies—SolarWorld—is also having trouble, and is shutting down factories in Germany and the U.S. and consolidating manufacturing. Another German solar company, Solon, is shutting an Arizona plant and laying off workers.

All this activity “is Darwinism at work in business,” said an executive of manufacturer Abound Solar.

So there are plenty of pretty innocuous explanations for what has happened that make sense without getting to a conspiracy theory about Obama corruptly steering money to a contributor. OTOH, I don't see the FBI raiding the others, so it sounds like something fishy was going on with Solyndra. But seeing that is a long way from pinning something on Obama.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

So there are plenty of pretty innocuous explanations for what has happened that make sense without getting to a conspiracy theory about Obama corruptly steering money to a contributor. OTOH, I don't see the FBI raiding the others, so it sounds like something fishy was going on with Solyndra. But seeing that is a long way from pinning something on Obama.

the House is planning an investigation, so we'll have an answer at least.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

the House is planning an investigation, so we'll have an answer at least.

If we can trust anyone to launch an impartial investigation, surely it is Darrell Issa.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

So there are plenty of pretty innocuous explanations for what has happened

I don't usually respond to the same post twice, but, I forget, is this the test we used WRT the last administration?

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

worse http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/09...srael-embassy/

by 11/2012 it will be very clear where Obama stands on Israel. The "I hate Jews" world is pushing based upon the weakness, or anti-semetism, that he and Hil exhibited early. They either have to step up and say the words, "Israel gets to live", or expose that they feel it doesn't. Interested in how they handle their real test of character.

First, color of sky? Second, worse? Really? The potential for armed conflict between the militariea of two of our alleys on the region pales in comparison to low grade violence in an unstable country in an historical transition?

I say it all the time, but you have to lay off the fox news. It really fucks with perspective.