Pepper sprayed for public safety.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

Oh, I wanted you to read your own words again. I thought they were on to something.

By the way, who is supplying that water? Where does it come from?

God. Do you believe the city of Boston can protect its water reservoir, or can just anyone walk up and dump stuff in it?

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

they aren't to have access to the water. to poison the water they'd need access. perhaps taking the water back makes it clear they aren't to go near the water, so that anyone who does go near the water can be seen as a threat.

Perhaps many things, but given my lack of access to further facts, I'll take the opinion of an Israeli on the ground over your speculations.

The facts we know are that they took the containers. That prevents these people from storing water from any source. That sounds like overkill if the goal is to prevent them from "stealing" water from the pipes.

It also sounds like overkill in your imagined scenario where the concern is really to keep them away from the pipes so they don't poison them. Note also that your hypothesis seems to assume that the pipes are the only source of water in the area (entirely possible), thus making your "they might poison the water" hypothesis all the more strained.

you are reading a blog

I'm reading an op ed in Haaretz. I don't know what you're reading.

from, it would appear, an Israeli who is as out there as any of Ty's DU american bloggers.

Or a long time Israeli journalist and Haaretz columnist.

I don't know that he has accurately mentioned all facts, but he has a sort of clear bias, don't you think?

Less clear than yours.

That they take back water that has already been "stolen," instead of preventing future "thefts" may be silly, it may also not be any part of the motivation for the IDF.

I have no idea whether they took back stolen water. He said they took the containers.

why can't you admit there may be a valid reason for the action?

Because I'm not searching desperately for any imagined justification for everything done by the IDF (or any other government institution, foreign or domestic, for that matter).

The facts we know sound really bad. It's entirely possible that there are other facts that would make it sound less bad. But in the absence of those facts, I'm going to go with bad.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

God. Do you believe the city of Boston can protect its water reservoir, or can just anyone walk up and dump stuff in it?

True. Just last week, Mayor Menino sent the police through all the black neighborhoods rounding up everyone's water jugs. And, of course, the City Council has decreed that water is only available to people of certain races and creeds. Except, well, that's not true.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

they aren't to have access to the water. to poison the water they'd need access. perhaps taking the water back makes it clear they aren't to go near the water, so that anyone who does go near the water can be seen as a threat. you are reading a blog from, it would appear, an Israeli who is as out there as any of Ty's DU american bloggers. I don't know that he has accurately mentioned all facts, but he has a sort of clear bias, don't you think? I'm simply pointing out there is a reason I could see for trying to keep Israeli water only to Israelis. That they take back water that has already been "stolen," instead of preventing future "thefts" may be silly, it may also not be any part of the motivation for the IDF. The IDF may simply be fucking with these people. I admit I can't know what is going on from this article- why can't you admit there may be a valid reason for the action?

That's from Haaretz, a leading Israeli newspaper.

You've missed the notion that the Palestinians might poison the water to poison their own children, thereby winning a propaganda victory. That seems every bit as credible as the other things you're saying.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

That's from Haaretz, a leading Israeli newspaper.

You've missed the notion that the Palestinians might poison the water to poison their own children, thereby winning a propaganda victory. That seems every bit as credible as the other things you're saying.

Hmmm. The concept sounds vaguely familiar.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

True. Just last week, Mayor Menino sent the police through all the black neighborhoods rounding up everyone's water jugs. And, of course, the City Council has decreed that water is only available to people of certain races and creeds. Except, well, that's not true.

so I could walk up to the Boston water reservoir and have complete access? Really? Is that an Obama stand-down, because I remember DHS pinpointing that as a primary terrorist threat and making sure water sources are kept secure.

In the desert these pipes are the equivalent of the reservoir. None of you have any sense of responsibility and protecting one's family from people that want to wipe them out-

As to city council, well the one thing in the blog that I do agree with is that the IDF is an occupier. When Baghdad was low on electricity did the US let Baghdad residents into the Green Zone to have access to electricity? No, because there are security interests.

You all are pathetic. Not one of you can say, "there is a chance that some palistinian could do harm to the settlers' water supply?" The reason this board is dead is so apparent and hammered into anyone with an open mind time after time. I'm just glad Penske doesn't have to see what you all have done to his board.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Not one of you can say, "there is a chance that some palistinian could do harm to the settlers' water supply?"

One more time, Hank. How does taking away their water containers do anything to protect the water supply?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Adder

One more time, Hank. How does taking away their water containers do anything to protect the water supply?

they "stole" water so they are punished. see, penalties are meant to teach others not to do something. did you go to law school? which one? it must be very very poor.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

they "stole" water so they are punished. see, penalties are meant to teach others not to do something. did you go to law school? which one? it must be very very poor.

Who stole water? Has there been any determination of who stole water?

I guess in Detroit, if someone syphons your tank during the Tiger's game, you just send the police around to get all the gas they can find from the cars in the black neighbhorhood, right?

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

so I could walk up to the Boston water reservoir and have complete access? Really? Is that an Obama stand-down, because I remember DHS pinpointing that as a primary terrorist threat and making sure water sources are kept secure.

In the desert these pipes are the equivalent of the reservoir. None of you have any sense of responsibility and protecting one's family from people that want to wipe them out-

As to city council, well the one thing in the blog that I do agree with is that the IDF is an occupier. When Baghdad was low on electricity did the US let Baghdad residents into the Green Zone to have access to electricity? No, because there are security interests.

You all are pathetic. Not one of you can say, "there is a chance that some palistinian could do harm to the settlers' water supply?" The reason this board is dead is so apparent and hammered into anyone with an open mind time after time. I'm just glad Penske doesn't have to see what you all have done to his board.

Hmmm. Any of the well-poisonings result in bubonic plague?

Or, wait, sorry. Am I mixing up times and places again?

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

they "stole" water so they are punished.

Ah hah! Now we are getting somewhere, sort of. Accepting that your assertion is true (although our source says no showing that they actually stole anything was necessary), does taking away their only place to store water seem like an appropriate punishment for having stolen water to you?

I say in the midst of a desert, it's a possible death sentence, which is too harsh for the "crime" of "stealing" water.

What do you think, Hank?

did you go to law school? which one? it must be very very poor

It has at least one highly questionable graduate. Two if you count me.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Adder

Ah hah! Now we are getting somewhere, sort of. Accepting that your assertion is true (although our source says no showing that they actually stole anything was necessary), does taking away their only place to store water seem like an appropriate punishment for having stolen water to you?

I say in the midst of a desert, it's a possible death sentence, which is too harsh for the "crime" of "stealing" water.

What do you think, Hank?

as i said, I am in no position to question the decisions of a people that survived 1 genocide and are threatened by a second.

It has at least one highly questionable graduate. Two if you count me.

outable for Penske, not cool.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

Who stole water? Has there been any determination of who stole water?

I guess in Detroit, if someone syphons your tank during the Tiger's game, you just send the police around to get all the gas they can find from the cars in the black neighbhorhood, right?

I guess you keep bringing up blacks because you are from a segregated Boston neighborhood? My neighborhood is a very diverse neighborhood, as are my social circles. btw, I have more muslim acquaintances than you.

I'm not saying I would take water containers, but I have no idea how people in that nightmare would react. I do know that white breads like all of you dems here would likely be building walls and taking water containers if you had to live near people that wanted you dead for what ethnicity you are- as opposed to most of your co-workers, neighbors, etc, who may well want you dead for your individual obnoxiousness, no offense.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

as i said, I am in no position to question the decisions of a people that survived 1 genocide and are threatened by a second.

Your's is a strange version of "threatened."

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Adder

Your's is a strange version of "threatened."

please go read about the goals of the 1967 war, the goals of Hamas and Hezbollah and the statements of Iran's president.

you seriously question that people would like to kill all Israelis, all Jews? How do you explain the security required for a Maccabbee game?