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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
So far, I haven't seen Biden attract the kind of support around the white working class here that was once owned by, say, Ted Kennedy, or the kind of support among my upstate NY working class family members once held by Clinton. And you know, some of them actually like Buttigieg, I've heard stuff like, yeah, we had a gay guy in my unit in Iraq, he was ok. I think his working class support is actually kind of weak.
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You're basing your analysis on someone saying "stuff like...?" You must be kidding.
Biden is leading Trump by 8 points in Ohio. Hillary lost Ohio by 8 points. Every other Democrat in the current field is tied with Trump in Ohio.
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His support in the African-American community seems stronger right now.
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It doesn't seem stronger. It
is stronger. And, I don't know how many times I have to say this, it doesn't matter how strong it actually is, because black people are going to the polls everywhere where they haven't been removed or blocked from voting to vote
against the racist in office.
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
And, yes, running two bad national campaigns still counts this cycle, because a lot of it is about who you hire, the advice of people in your kitchen cabinet, the depth of loyalty to you. This time he does also have a significant portion of both Obama's and Clinton's teams on board with him, and that should help him out, but don't put all your eggs in his baskets until he gets tested out there some more.
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Dude, you keep approaching this conversation like I am someone who can put eggs in a basket.
I am a black man, with black and Asian people all over my family. I am voting against Trump. Period. I am completely focused on whoever can beat Trump by the widest margin. If Kamala wins the nomination and ekes out a victory, that's not much of a win. We need seats in the House and the Senate. And the best way to get them is to get white people--many of whom
will not vote for a black person, or a woman, or a gay man, or an old Jew to pull the lever for the entire Democratic ticket wherever the fuck they are.
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I'm not even talking about Bernie as a possible candidate, let's just bash him until he goes away, the sooner, the better.
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I'm with you there, brother.
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