Objectively intelligent.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

I think it actually all comes down to hanging chads. The count was close enough so how one interpretted a number of thousands of challenged votes would determine the outcome. Unlike this time, I think most of those were good challenges - there was something about the ballots that rendered them potentially ambiguous. It ended in a very bad way, with an explicitly partisan Supreme Court decision. But it did end.

Gore was a grown up, and there would have been significant continuity on almost all fronts. We all know the discontinuity on the national security front may have played a role in the government missing signals about 9-11, we all know the excesses of Bushes tax and economic policies and the laxness of his regulatory policies (and possibly also the laxness of Clinton's regulatory policies) contributed to the recession at the end of his term. And that's not even getting into Iraq II, which had a lot to do with Bush's Daddy Issues and little to do with sound foreign policy. Of course Gore would have made some mistakes, too, but Bush made some pretty big ones.

My firm’s Arthrex win at the Federal Circuit is set for argument at the Supreme Court March 1. Understand, the shop I run appears at the Supremes. Listen to me when I try to educate?
Have any of the libs Justices EVER not voted lockstep? No. Yet libs talk about the partisan Conservatives, who often drift. Silly silly argument.

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

My firm’s Arthrex win at the Federal Circuit is set for argument at the Supreme Court March 1. Understand, the shop I run appears at the Supremes. Listen to me when I try to educate?
Have any of the libs Justices EVER not voted lockstep? No. Yet libs talk about the partisan Conservatives, who often drift. Silly silly argument.

Again Buddy Brett issued my side (plaintiffs) the best decision in the history of Torts. It made Palsgraff look like Sharia law.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

Again Buddy Brett issued my side (plaintiffs) the best decision in the history of Torts. It made Palsgraff look like Sharia law.

Cool, and against the narrative that Ty and his Qanon fellow travelers painted of the b. But my son blocked a guard’s shot in a Hs game, and the kid made the NBA, for a minute, but still.

Still, my son blocked a shot before the kid was in the NBA, not after. Something to brag about, but......

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

I watched on TV while Fla. libs were trying to steal the election, change the count. You are not stupid, but you are blinded by your bias. Trust me on this.

I mean, it’s normal given your abnormality, but it is ��

You know, you're responding to a post where I said I didn't want to talk about the substance of this, and said other stuff. Instead of responding to what I did want to talk about, you keep talking about Florida. I'm just going to assume you agree with the rest of my post, but I'm happy to have that conversation if you have something to say.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Have any of the libs Justices EVER not voted lockstep? No. Yet libs talk about the partisan Conservatives, who often drift. Silly silly argument.

The conservatives and the liberals alike vote in a non-lockstep manner on most of what the Court does, which is non-partisan. The partisan cases are a really small fraction of its work.

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Cool, and against the narrative that Ty and his Qanon fellow travelers painted of the b. But my son blocked a guard’s shot in a Hs game, and the kid made the NBA, for a minute, but still.

Still, my son blocked a shot before the kid was in the NBA, not after. Something to brag about, but......

As a FWD, my kid shut down a first-pair NHL D man for a full HS season.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower

A hyper-sensitive narcissistic...

Well of course he's narcissistic - TM stopped by here just to see what he (and nobody else) was up to. We created this monster.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

Just as an FYI, I'm not going to let him post here.

We will not be the last refuge.

I don't think Sebby deserves this.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Well, those nuts could have captured/killed some congresspeople, yes? And then could the vote be counted? Rudy suspended an election on 9/11 (he had to, I'm not dogging on him for that), Do you think space fuck couldn't have tried that? And I still don't know, am not sure there even is an answer, what if Trump ordered the military to do X?

I suspect he did order the military, or at least suggest it in his mobster speak, and was told know. There's going to be some interesting testimony at some point in the future.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Have any of the libs Justices EVER not voted lockstep? No.

Uh, what are you talking about?

[Adder]

The odds of success were long, but these people were not "not a threat."

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Adder

The odds of success were long, but these people were not "not a threat."

doesn't seem to open

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

doesn't seem to open

Probably paywalled anyway, should have given you the link directly to the AP: https://apnews.com/article/us-capito...cd2243ad769101

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

Nah but we are probably talking double digit dead bodies.

Yeah, probably a number of deaths.

But it's also worth noting, the guy with the zip cuffs was a bartender from TN who was dumb enough to bring his mother, sans mask, to the riot, which led to his swift arrest: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...dentified.html

These people were morons.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

I'm not interested in relitigating the substantive issues that the US Supreme Court decided when it halted ongoing state-court proceedings. The point, which seems pretty obvious, is that having the election decided in that fashion was bad for democracy. There is a direct line between the Supreme Court's Bush v. Gore decision and the theory concocted by Republicans twenty years later that they can disregard a state's votes if they have the votes in Congress. Twenty years ago, their anti-democratic theories involved the federal courts. This year, when they lost in the federal courts, that didn't stop them. Democracy doesn't die all at once, but in steps.

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Which is not to say that the damage he's done is fatal. It's up to us, now.

Agreed.

The biggest problems with the election and the process were (i) the Brooks Brothers Riot, in which Republicans used threats of violence to stop a count and (ii) the decision in the Supreme Court, which is a partisan piece of trash.

All other issues in that election are secondary.