This is the thread where the fringster comes back with teeth - Page 106

ThurgreedMarshall · 08-19-2009, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower

http://www.lutralutra.co.uk/squirrelizer/

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ThurgreedMarshall · 08-19-2009, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

baseball q for burger or T or whatever sock ventures an answer-

Tigers at home up 1-0 going into the 6th. Our starting pitcher gives up a run, then gets two guys out, falters, gets pulled. The reliever gets the third out, so the score is tied.

bottom of the sixth we score and that run turns out to be the winning run. who is the winning pitcher, the starter who starts the 6th or the reliever who finishes it?

Reliever.

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Pretty Little Flower · 08-19-2009, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

Why is it that every analyst thinks MN is automatically a better team now? I think they're fucked.

Last year they made the playoffs. They are a running team and they need a quarterback who understands that. Instead they are going to get a washed-up, ego maniac who just had surgery and has a (new?) tear in his labrum, who thinks he's too good for training camp and is in love with stupid, risky passes that lead to interceptions. How is this a good thing?

When Peterson gets fewer carries because Favre bitches about how he's being used or when he audibles out of a play designed for the best running back in the league, what happens? When the team busts its ass in a close game for 4 quarters and Favre tries to make something happen, throwing across the field, across his body and off his back foot, right into the hands of the defender, what happens?

Why doesn't anyone have the balls to openly criticize this guy? Fuck him.

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Hank Chinaski · 08-19-2009, 12:39 PM

I really liked Hung, at first, but it seems to be spinning its wheels trying to decide where to go. And why do his clients mostly look like the woman on the right, when they actually should look like the one on the left?

ThurgreedMarshall · 08-19-2009, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

I really liked Hung, at first, but it seems to be spinning its wheels trying to decide where to go.

I still like the show, but I agree. They have a good idea and don't know where to go with it. He's falling for his third "Jane?" Give me a break.

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ltl/fb · 08-19-2009, 01:01 PM

My arm hurts and no, I didn't bite it.

Hank Chinaski · 08-19-2009, 01:15 PM

infirm update- the ban against swear words is apparently off- there is a Politics' sock called "fuck shit ass fuck," or something like that.

Adder · 08-19-2009, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

Why is it that every analyst thinks MN is automatically a better team now?

Because Jackson makes all the same mistakes, with little of the upside? For the last two years, they have played close games only to fall behind at the end and need to move down the field and score. If there's enough time, they could give AP the rock and hope to get there. If there isn't Jackson throws a pick. At least now the chance of pick vs. winning drive should be at least 50/50.

Obviously I haven't mentioned Sage, as I haven't seen much of him lately. But he hasn't impressed in the past.

ThurgreedMarshall · 08-19-2009, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Adder

Because Jackson makes all the same mistakes, with little of the upside? For the last two years, they have played close games only to fall behind at the end and need to move down the field and score. If there's enough time, they could give AP the rock and hope to get there. If there isn't Jackson throws a pick. At least now the chance of pick vs. winning drive should be at least 50/50.

I think you need to take a close look at Jackson's stats last year, compared to Favre's. I'm not saying Tavaris is a superstar, but he's shown improvement every year. Favre is going to suck and if he's not happy with how the game is going, he will chuck it up and hope one of his guys comes down with it. You think he can be coached? Good luck.

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Adder · 08-19-2009, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

I think you need to take a close look at Jackson's stats last year, compared to Favre's. I'm not saying Tavaris is a superstar, but he's shown improvement every year. Favre is going to suck and if he's not happy with how the game is going, he will chuck it up and hope one of his guys comes down with it. You think he can be coached? Good luck.

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It's not really a question of stats with Jackson. You're right, he's been improving statistically, but he seems to loose it in pressure situations, making bone-headed plays. That's why I say its the same mistakes. The difference is that Favre makes the mistakes out of overconfidence, thinking he can put a ball anywhere. Jackson makes the mistakes out of confusion/panic. Neither problem is easily coachable, but at least with the over confident you can feel like you died trying.

But here's the deal. With Jackson, they are at best a 10-6 team, probably 7-9 at worst. With Favre, they could be a 12-4 team, with probably about the same downside (worst case scenario you put him on the bench). I think faced with more mediocrity, it's worth a shot.

bold_n_brazen · 08-19-2009, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

infirm update- the ban against swear words is apparently off- there is a Politics' sock called "fuck shit ass fuck," or something like that.

There is still an infirm?

Hank Chinaski · 08-19-2009, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bold_n_brazen

There is still an infirm?

it's almost all PB and IP, but those two areas are big.

the PB is interesting because it looks just like our PB, just with different sock names. seeing how dumb it is can be sobering.

ThurgreedMarshall · 08-19-2009, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Adder

It's not really a question of stats with Jackson. You're right, he's been improving statistically, but he seems to loose it in pressure situations, making bone-headed plays. That's why I say its the same mistakes. The difference is that Favre makes the mistakes out of overconfidence, thinking he can put a ball anywhere. Jackson makes the mistakes out of confusion/panic. Neither problem is easily coachable, but at least with the over confident you can feel like you died trying.

But here's the deal. With Jackson, they are at best a 10-6 team, probably 7-9 at worst. With Favre, they could be a 12-4 team, with probably about the same downside (worst case scenario you put him on the bench). I think faced with more mediocrity, it's worth a shot.

I guess I don't see him play every game, so I can't say definitively, but the guy has had 25 career starts. How do you already know that he has peaked? And every quarterback (with maybe a handful of exceptions), panicked early in his career in big situations. The guys who overcame it were given the necessary snaps to get over it.

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ThurgreedMarshall · 08-19-2009, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Adder

...at least with the over confident you can feel like you died trying.

http://funnycrave.com/brett-favres-6...all-time/1497/

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notcasesensitive · 08-19-2009, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

Why is it that every analyst thinks MN is automatically a better team now? I think they're fucked.

Last year they made the playoffs. They are a running team and they need a quarterback who understands that. Instead they are going to get a washed-up, ego maniac who just had surgery and has a (new?) tear in his labrum, who thinks he's too good for training camp and is in love with stupid, risky passes that lead to interceptions. How is this a good thing?

When Peterson gets fewer carries because Favre bitches about how he's being used or when he audibles out of a play designed for the best running back in the league, what happens? When the team busts its ass in a close game for 4 quarters and Favre tries to make something happen, throwing across the field, across his body and off his back foot, right into the hands of the defender, what happens?

Why doesn't anyone have the balls to openly criticize this guy? Fuck him.

TM

Surprisingly Peter King, biggest Favre suckup of all time, was quite critical of the move:

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You would think I think this Brett Favre-to-Minnesota story is great, but I don't. I think it's wrong. I think it's a circus. And I think Minnesota coach Brad Childress is making a mistake.
If I were Childress, I'd have waited until Sage Rosenfels struggled -- if he struggled -- and then made the call to Favre. By doing it now, Childress loses Rosenfels and Tarvaris Jackson; how can they ever trust anything he says now? I'm sure both are furious, and Rosenfels, particularly, is crushed. And the way Favre talked to me three weeks ago, there's a chance he won't last the season and Childress will have to turn to one of his angry quarterbacks.
What Favre told me late last month he wasn't coming back because he felt totally beat after some hard summer workouts, how could he think he'd have enough stamina to make it through a season? He simply didn't think he'd be able to handle the physical rigors of the season. "I just didn't think my body would hold up the way it had in the past,'' he said.
The perfect scenario would have been for the Vikings to see if Rosenfels or Jackson played well enough through a piece-of-cake early schedule (at Cleveland, at Detroit, San Francisco), and if the position was an Achilles heel, then reach out to Favre to see if he was interested. By doing it now, Childress tells his team he doesn't trust Rosenfels or Jackson. That could come back to haunt him if Favre's body breaks down.
Childress has looked like a desperate man throughout this melodrama. He made it known internally that Favre had to do at least some work in the offseason program or the veteran mini-camp to be considered. Favre never showed. Then he had to come by the start of camp. Favre didn't come, opting for his third false retirement in 17 months. Now the Vikings let him come back after the team has gone through training camp. Favre's the wishy-washiest player in memory -- and the Vikings are his enablers. It's ridiculous.

link -- http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...#ixzz0OenHRXNb

CNN is also reporting that it expects a Jackson trade sometime soon.