This is the thread where the fringster comes back with teeth

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower

In Coltrane's defense, you made it seem like you were sitting on a beach blanket in 95 degree heat, brushing sand off your martini glass. Not a pleasant thought. Much different than the idea of sipping a G&T on the end of a dock while the sun slowly sets across the Atlantic. Which, of course, is so beautiful a thought I might be tearing up right now. Where is The One Who Cries?

Yep. I pictured him on the beach with a bottle of gin. And that reminded me of the bums in Key West.

[Not Bob's Id]

Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?

Who drinks gin at the beach?

You've clearly never had a Tom Collins, my boy, made by a Mount Holyoke Renaissance Studies major from Cos Cob who is trying to annoy her fiance and her father. There's something delightful about the combination of sunburn, jealousy, August, parental rage, fresh lemon juice and Bombay Saphire.

[Not Bob's Id]

Originally Posted by ltl/fb

It seems like I might want to have this cleared up.

Well, baby, I'm not Anything That Moves, but I did teach him everything he knows. Care to see my etchings?

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Sidd Finch

So it doesn't need to be soft (and if I'm actually measuring it, it's easier if it's firm)

Hmm...there's a joke in here somewhere... if only I could find it.

As for the butter talk, y'all are crazy. I think there might still be some butter in my fridge, but I'm not positive. I haven't used any in a long time, and I cook at home all the time. Butter is the easyway out. And it is gross as a spread, other than on warm toast.

[ltl/fb]

Originally Posted by Not Bob's Id

Well, baby, I'm not Anything That Moves, but I did teach him everything he knows. Care to see my etchings?

I have some other etchings to look at first. But not yet.

[ltl/fb]

Originally Posted by ltl/fb

I have some other etchings to look at first. But not yet.

So it may be a while.

[Fugee]

Originally Posted by Adder

As for the butter talk, y'all are crazy. I think there might still be some butter in my fridge, but I'm not positive. I haven't used any in a long time, and I cook at home all the time. Butter is the easyway out. And it is gross as a spread, other than on warm toast.

You are the crazy one grasshopper. Unsalted butter on fresh bread = ultra delicious. For that matter, any kind of butter on fresh bread. And if the fresh bread is still warm, make that ultra ultra delicious.

[evenodds]

Originally Posted by Adder

Butter is the easyway out. And it is gross as a spread, other than on warm toast.

My neighborhood dive does a burger topped with a gorgonzola butter -- it is heaven in a basket.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

[greatwhitenorthchick]

Coltrane, DTB, Ty (I think), Hank and anyone else who runs, have you ever tried Chi Running? From what I can gather, you mostly run on the front half of your foot -- i.e., the ball, so your heel never really hits the ground. Also, you run a little pitched forward instead of upright.

I have been plagued by a tight hamstring all summer. I mostly took August off from running (I was running 3.5-4 miles/day 4 or 5 times a week -- I would run more, but I run to warm up before I train, so there's not enough time to do more). I was feeling better at the beginning of the week, so I ran again -- 3.5. miles. Because someone mentioned that Chi Running does not encourage further injury, I mostly ran on the ball of my feet, and it felt great while I was doing it, but now my calves are so tight it hurts to walk. It's the sort of tightness that will loosen up by Monday, so I'm not worried. The question is, when I am feeling fine next week and want to run, should I do the Chi Running again, and build up my calves (which would be helpful overall) or go back to regular running and maybe get the tight hamstring again.

I should mention I have a very slight scoliosis, so one leg is longer than the other, which throws off my gait.

Also my boyfriend thinks Chi Running is highly unnatural and does not think I should do it again. I think he may have a point, but I'm wondering if anyone else has done it.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by greatwhitenorthchick

Coltrane, DTB, Ty (I think), Hank and anyone else who runs, have you ever tried Chi Running? From what I can gather, you mostly run on the front half of your foot -- i.e., the ball, so your heel never really hits the ground.

Clearly, I am not a runner. But I didn't know there was running in which you didn't run primarily ont he front half of your foot so your heel never really hits the ground.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally Posted by greatwhitenorthchick

Coltrane, DTB, Ty (I think), Hank and anyone else who runs, have you ever tried Chi Running? From what I can gather, you mostly run on the front half of your foot -- i.e., the ball, so your heel never really hits the ground. Also, you run a little pitched forward instead of upright.

I have been plagued by a tight hamstring all summer. I mostly took August off from running (I was running 3.5-4 miles/day 4 or 5 times a week -- I would run more, but I run to warm up before I train, so there's not enough time to do more). I was feeling better at the beginning of the week, so I ran again -- 3.5. miles. Because someone mentioned that Chi Running does not encourage further injury, I mostly ran on the ball of my feet, and it felt great while I was doing it, but now my calves are so tight it hurts to walk. It's the sort of tightness that will loosen up by Monday, so I'm not worried. The question is, when I am feeling fine next week and want to run, should I do the Chi Running again, and build up my calves (which would be helpful overall) or go back to regular running and maybe get the tight hamstring again.

I should mention I have a very slight scoliosis, so one leg is longer than the other, which throws off my gait.

Also my boyfriend thinks Chi Running is highly unnatural and does not think I should do it again. I think he may have a point, but I'm wondering if anyone else has done it.

I don't know much about it, but there has been a movement towards barefoot running, which is apparently based upon the fact that humans have walked/run slow for millions of years barefoot, mostly landing on our midfoot(feet?), and that shoes alter our gait, posture, etc. and force us to land more on our heels, which may cause us to get injured more easily from running. Chi Running sounds like is has some similar ideas.

I have been lucky and have been mostly injury-free, so I'm probably not the best person to answer. That being said, I run in very lightweight shoes that don't do much to assist/change my gait. While I don't have much to back this up, I do think that many running shoes are over-engineered and force people to run differently from their natural gait.

As I'm sure you've noticed, the faster you run, the more likely you are to land on the ball/midfoot of your feet (as opposed to a heel strike).

Have you seen these?

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally Posted by Adder

Clearly, I am not a runner. But I didn't know there was running in which you didn't run primarily ont he front half of your foot so your heel never really hits the ground.

Run barefoot, and you're correct. Actually, if you try to run barefoot like you do in running shoes, you're in for a world of pain.

Next time you see someone (who isn't superfast) out for a run, you'll likely see him/her have a heel-to-midfoot strike.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?

I don't know much about it, but there has been a movement towards barefoot running, which is apparently based upon the fact that humans have walked/run slow for millions of years barefoot, mostly landing on our midfoot(feet?), and that shoes alter our gait, posture, etc. so that we now get injured more easily from running.

Of course, life expectancy has tripled since the introduction of shoes.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)

Of course, life expectancy has tripled since the introduction of shoes.

That's mostly because infants don't die nearly as often as they used to.