This is the thread where the fringster comes back with teeth

[Fugee]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

I haven't read it, but it is here on the Smoking Gun site.

I read that pretty quickly but it looks like there wasn't a set agreement for the sentencing -- at least none they put on the record. Based on watching TV, I thought recommended sentences were part of plea agreements and put into the record.

Back to the Salon article -- as part of their defense strategy they were going to say the 13-year old girl was not a virgin and they wanted to get details on who else she'd had sex with. That was probably standard defense procedures in rape cases back then, but when it involves a 13-year-old girl, I find that disgusting enough that it takes away any sympathy for him based on what a rogue judge was going to do.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower

I don't think there is any dispute that judge was out for Polanski's ass. I believe he came out and said so to his buddies. Even the Salon piece acknowledged that the documentary made a pretty convincing argument that the judge had gone off the rails. So, if you are a bad man who has done a very bad thing, but you see that your punishment is going to be presided over by a judge who has gone off the rails, engaging in judicial misconduct, and is now solely concerned about doing whatever he can to come off as a tough guy and get more press, do you stay and accept your fate because you have done a very bad thing and therefore no amount of miscarriage of justice in the sentencing phase is too much miscarriage of justice?

why do you think people question his fleeing? anyone who has committed a felony, and has yet to be visited by a 90 foot Jesus telling them to surrender to the police, should run.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch

If you rape a child,...... Any sane person

null set?

[Hank Chinaski]

enough of this Polanski stuff- next exercise: Flower, assume we catch bin ladin, can you please post a rationale for why he hid out instead of turning himself in? you may assume he had heard about the waterboarding,

[Cletus Miller]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

enough of this Polanski stuff- next exercise: Flower, assume we catch bin ladin, can you please post a rationale for why he hid out instead of turning himself in?

Because there's no way he'd get a fair trial. Of course.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower

I don't think there is any dispute that judge was out for Polanski's ass. I believe he came out and said so to his buddies. Even the Salon piece acknowledged that the documentary made a pretty convincing argument that the judge had gone off the rails. So, if you are a bad man who has done a very bad thing, but you see that your punishment is going to be presided over by a judge who has gone off the rails, engaging in judicial misconduct, and is now solely concerned about doing whatever he can to come off as a tough guy and get more press, do you stay and accept your fate because you have done a very bad thing and therefore no amount of miscarriage of justice in the sentencing phase is too much miscarriage of justice?

No. You absolutely run. It's a no brainer. So much of a no brainer that if you get caught later and brought back your running should not be factored into what punishment you receive.

Jail him for 90 days and force him to do a bunch of short films raising awareness about sexual abuse. That seems a reasonable sentence given all the factors.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

enough of this Polanski stuff- next exercise: Flower, assume we catch bin ladin, can you please post a rationale for why he hid out instead of turning himself in? you may assume he had heard about the waterboarding,

Apples and aircraft carriers.

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

No. You absolutely run. It's a no brainer. So much of a no brainer that if you get caught later and brought back your running should not be factored into what punishment you receive.

Jail him for 90 days and force him to do a bunch of short films raising awareness about sexual abuse. That seems a reasonable sentence given all the factors.

I assume you also believe the drugging and raping of children is acceptable conduct.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

No. You absolutely run. It's a no brainer. So much of a no brainer that if you get caught later and brought back your running should not be factored into what punishment you receive.

Jail him for 90 days and force him to do a bunch of short films raising awareness about sexual abuse. That seems a reasonable sentence given all the factors.

Ty, you're just not up to the task of being the board's child rape advocate. Sebby's clearly the guy.

Sorry.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

I was one of the pissed off people, but I think he served his time and deserves to seek out whatever gainful employment he can.

I also find it down right fascinating that there was a lot of talk about Plaxico Burress (dumbass who shot himself in the leg with an illegal gun), but not a peep about Donte Stallworth (dumbass who got drunk, got in his car, ran over a guy and killed him).

There was a lot of indignant sputtering on my facebook feeds when Vick was let back in the league, but not a single word about Stallworth, who was suspended from the league around the same time. Maybe a Browns receiver is lower status than an Atlanta QB or a fancy New York receiver. But 30 days in jail, plus 1,000 hours of community service, 2 years of house arrest, and 8 years probation for killing a guy seems kind of light compared to 23 months in federal prison, a million dollars to care for the dogs, and a $2500 state felony fine (Vick) or two years in jail for the weapons charge (Burress).

Maybe playing for the Browns counted as time served?

[LessinSF]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

Ty, you're just not up to the task of being the board's child rape advocate. Sebby's clearly the guy.

Sorry.

The Swiss might give him bail?!?!? http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...i025401D84.DTL

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally Posted by LessinSF

The Swiss might give him bail?!?!? http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...i025401D84.DTL

Say what you will about child rape, but this turn of events is hilarious.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower

I assume you also believe the drugging and raping of children is acceptable conduct.

No, I don't. I think he's an appalling disaster. But I can see where this thing is headed, and it's waste of resources, time and it will fill my television with another pile of idiot Nancy Grace-like debates with talking heads screaming at each other.

The man's a degenerate. But the sentence was supposed to be probation. My suggestion is actually harsher than what the original prosecutor recommended.

You want to assign blame? Blame for the crime falls on Polanski. But blame for the light sentence falls on a clearly unqualified and disturbingly interventionist judge. A judge who would use his position for political gain deserves to lose it.

Personally, the best result I could foresee would be to turn back the clock, tell the prosecutor to grow a pair and scuttle the deal before it happened. Push for a trial and force Polanski to take a deal for several years in prison.

But we can't turn back the clock, can we? A degenerate in a black robe saw to it that an appropriate result couldn't be achieved, and so another degenerate bolted, and got 30 years in France.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

Ty, you're just not up to the task of being the board's child rape advocate. Sebby's clearly the guy.

Sorry.

This is either: (a) a dumb joke; (b) a pathetic attempt to score points with the harrumph-then-think crowd; or, (c) an acknowledgment the emotional side of your brain trumps the rational side.

Whichever, reread and respond like someone with modest powers of logic, or a better quality of wit.

[LessinSF]

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