Time to drink your gin-and-tonic-ah

[Sidd Finch]

Originally Posted by taxwonk

I think the iPad's biggest competitor is the iPhone. If I want the video and surfing, etc. on a bigger footprint, I buy the iPad and sell the iPhone on eBay. If I don't need the bigger screen to look at porn or watch videos, then all I need if I have the iPhone is the Kindle.

At lunch a colleague mentioned the iPad as a potential replacement for the portable DVD player he lets his kids watch on airplanes, the Gameboy, and the Kindle.

Then someone in the hallway yelled "Steve!" and his eyes got all glassy.

[PresentTense Pirate Penske]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

He wrote a cool book:


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Cute kid, but I avoid reading anything about christianity and also stay fully clear of any christian pop culture (other than maybe the Jonas Bros and Miley Cyrus-they are christians yes?)

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

I've been reading his blog for years.

Hank and I have been reading the DU for years, but we don't cite it for reliability.

[PresentTense Pirate Penske]

Originally Posted by Sidd Finch

At lunch a colleague mentioned the iPad as a potential replacement for the portable DVD player he lets his kids watch on airplanes, the Gameboy, and the Kindle.

Then someone in the hallway yelled "Steve!" and his eyes got all glassy.

I see this sort of thing happen a lot.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by PresentTense Pirate Penske

Hank and I have been reading the DU for years, but we don't cite it for reliability.

I cited to give Radosh credit for the observation, not because I thought his imprimatur added or detracted from its reliability. YMMV.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally Posted by 1436

The local apple store sales person just told me that the ATT contract was for 5 years, and therefore has another year or so on it, but only covers 3G.

The local apple store salesperson needs to review the rumor boards about this more frequently. 5 years is old and busted. 3 years (running out this summer) is the current view, and that was 2 years + 1 year added when the 3GS was released.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch

I agree with a whole lot of this, particularly how Apple-haters are just positioning themselves in the nerd ecosystem, but I didn't interpret the tweet to mean "this thing is going to suck." Jobs claimed the device is going to be intermediate between the iPhone and a MacBook -- that the space between needs a product. The point is that, if you're talking about mobile computing, the iPad is a device that is too close to the iPhone and may actually fall below its feature set, and at a higher purchase* price to boot. It lacks GPS, voice, and a camera. What it gains in return is a larger screen (pro and con for a mobile device), and potentially a better keypad form factor. So his point isn't really that it sucks, but rather that the iPhone is already eating this device's lunch.

I suppose. But it seems to me that he's trying to conquer the world with iTunes. They have movies, tv, games, music, videos already. Now they're going to sell books and magazines. I think Jobs saw the Kindle and said, "Cool. How can we blow this thing out of the fucking water and sell all the other shit we have on iTunes?" This is what he came up with.

I'm really just looking at it as a Kindle that kicks ass. I don't have to switch devices to check email or surf the net or play a game or even watch a movie if I want to take a break from whatever book I'm reading (on the plane, in the waiting room, whatever). But if it sucks for reading books, what's the point? No way I spend that kind of money to have what I already have in my pocket and on my computer just 'cause it's cool. I may want it, but I don't want it that bad.

I also bet that Jobs believes this is the direction computing is going to take. he'll make it thinner and thinner, until Sidd can fold it up so he can take it with him when he takes a shit. Just like desktops are fading, laptops will be the next to go. Everyone will have some kind of cool keyboard and people will just carry their computers/iPads in their pockets and unfold them, hang 'em up and wirelessly connect to the keyboard and do what they need to do. They'll just keep making these things faster, lighter, thinner, more powerful and more portable and everyone will be playing catch-up (as usual).

TM

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

I suppose. But it seems to me that he's trying to conquer the world with iTunes. They have movies, tv, games, music, videos already. Now they're going to sell books and magazines. I think Jobs saw the Kindle and said, "Cool. How can we blow this thing out of the fucking water and sell all the other shit we have on iTunes?" This is what he came up with.

I'm really just looking at it as a Kindle that kicks ass. I don't have to switch devices to check email or surf the net or play a game or even watch a movie if I want to take a break from whatever book I'm reading (on the plane, in the waiting room, whatever). But if it sucks for reading books, what's the point? No way I spend that kind of money to have what I already have in my pocket and on my computer just 'cause it's cool. I may want it, but I don't want it that bad.

I also bet that Jobs believes this is the direction computing is going to take. he'll make it thinner and thinner, until Sidd can fold it up so he can take it with him when he takes a shit. Just like desktops are fading, laptops will be the next to go. Everyone will have some kind of cool keyboard and people will just carry their computers/iPads in their pockets and unfold them, hang 'em up and wirelessly connect to the keyboard and do what they need to do. They'll just keep making these things faster, lighter, thinner, more powerful and more portable and everyone will be playing catch-up (as usual).

TM

It's about 2" bigger than the kindle each way - that's quite a bit of extra bulk. I'm happy for the extra bulk if I can really use it for doing things like taking notes at a meeting, so it is replacing a laptop, but I'm not going to accept the bulk if I'm just using it to read and generally entertain myself.

[Cletus Miller]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

Everyone will have some kind of cool keyboard and people will just carry their computers/iPads in their pockets and unfold them, hang 'em up and wirelessly connect to the keyboard and do what they need to do.

TM

Integrate something like this and you wouldn't need to connect to a keyboard.

[Flinty_McFlint]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

It's about 2" bigger than the kindle each way - that's quite a bit of extra bulk. I'm happy for the extra bulk if I can really use it for doing things like taking notes at a meeting, so it is replacing a laptop, but I'm not going to accept the bulk if I'm just using it to read and generally entertain myself.

Oh dear.

[PresentTense Pirate Penske]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

I suppose. But it seems to me that he's trying to conquer the world with iTunes. They have movies, tv, games, music, videos already. Now they're going to sell books and magazines. I think Jobs saw the Kindle and said, "Cool. How can we blow this thing out of the fucking water and sell all the other shit we have on iTunes?" This is what he came up with.

I'm really just looking at it as a Kindle that kicks ass. I don't have to switch devices to check email or surf the net or play a game or even watch a movie if I want to take a break from whatever book I'm reading (on the plane, in the waiting room, whatever). But if it sucks for reading books, what's the point? No way I spend that kind of money to have what I already have in my pocket and on my computer just 'cause it's cool. I may want it, but I don't want it that bad.

I also bet that Jobs believes this is the direction computing is going to take. he'll make it thinner and thinner, until Sidd can fold it up so he can take it with him when he takes a shit. Just like desktops are fading, laptops will be the next to go. Everyone will have some kind of cool keyboard and people will just carry their computers/iPads in their pockets and unfold them, hang 'em up and wirelessly connect to the keyboard and do what they need to do. They'll just keep making these things faster, lighter, thinner, more powerful and more portable and everyone will be playing catch-up (as usual).

TM

I agree, at least until they can plant the chip right into your brain and do away with the extraneous hardware, however thin and foldable it becomes.

[Cletus Miller]

Originally Posted by Sidd Finch

At lunch a colleague mentioned the iPad as a potential replacement for the portable DVD player he lets his kids watch on airplanes, the Gameboy, and the Kindle.

Then someone in the hallway yelled "Steve!" and his eyes got all glassy.

If the battery life is anything close to the asserted 10 hours for movie viewing and games, seems like a no-brainer replacement for dvd player and portable game system. How much memory does an HD iTunes movie require?

As a Kindle substitute, it depends on relative eyestrain, but will kill Kindle for general interest magazine/newspaper subscription.

[PresentTense Pirate Penske]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

It's about 2" bigger than the kindle each way - that's quite a bit of extra bulk. I'm happy for the extra bulk if I can really use it for doing things like taking notes at a meeting, so it is replacing a laptop, but I'm not going to accept the bulk if I'm just using it to read and generally entertain myself.

Odd, its that type of equation that allowed me the opportunity to take over the servicing of Hank's wife's conjugal needs in the boudoir. I'm glad she is more appreciative of an extra several inches for entertainment purposes.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Cletus Miller

If the battery life is anything close to the asserted 10 hours for movie viewing and games, seems like a no-brainer replacement for dvd player and portable game system. How much memory does an HD iTunes movie require?

As a Kindle substitute, it depends on relative eyestrain, but will kill Kindle for general interest magazine/newspaper subscription.

Does the extra size drain the battery life?

Too obvious?

[notcasesensitive]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

I suppose. But it seems to me that he's trying to conquer the world with iTunes. They have movies, tv, games, music, videos already. Now they're going to sell books and magazines. I think Jobs saw the Kindle and said, "Cool. How can we blow this thing out of the fucking water and sell all the other shit we have on iTunes?" This is what he came up with.

I'm really just looking at it as a Kindle that kicks ass. I don't have to switch devices to check email or surf the net or play a game or even watch a movie if I want to take a break from whatever book I'm reading (on the plane, in the waiting room, whatever). But if it sucks for reading books, what's the point? No way I spend that kind of money to have what I already have in my pocket and on my computer just 'cause it's cool. I may want it, but I don't want it that bad.

I also bet that Jobs believes this is the direction computing is going to take. he'll make it thinner and thinner, until Sidd can fold it up so he can take it with him when he takes a shit. Just like desktops are fading, laptops will be the next to go. Everyone will have some kind of cool keyboard and people will just carry their computers/iPads in their pockets and unfold them, hang 'em up and wirelessly connect to the keyboard and do what they need to do. They'll just keep making these things faster, lighter, thinner, more powerful and more portable and everyone will be playing catch-up (as usual).

TM

I'm curious to know whether/how soon/how well the tablet concept will work for design work (integration with graphic design programs in particular). Outside of potential advances there that would do away with the need for Wacom tablets, this is sort of anti-climactic to me. Of course, I have a Kindle and I'm therefore not really into another book reader.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

I also bet that Jobs believes this is the direction computing is going to take. he'll make it thinner and thinner, until Sidd can fold it up so he can take it with him when he takes a shit.

Hear that, Atticus? Go to Amazon and put this on your wishlist.