Election 2010: Teabaggin' the Ds & Rs

[LessinSF]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

I look forward to working with our new Tea Party overlords! More fun than Penske photoshops back in the day, except that they'll be sitting in Congress!

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/republi...in-november/2/ :

So the Republicans kinda suck, and that’s why they’re going to win huge this November. Because in the land of epic, mega, ultra, apocalyptic levels of sucking, those who kinda suck are king. Or at least are going to win in a landslide.

Because once the zombie apocalypse is over, the annoying neighbor dog is going to be music to your ears.

For a little while, at least.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

So the Sherman Act is being added to the list? Will the S.Ct. fix that (CJ Angle, presiding, Associate Justices Buck and O'Donnell writing the opinion)? Or do we need an amendment?

I hope the patent laws are eliminated. Talk about statist!

i watched a movie about holmes for 2 minutes on AMC yesterday and that was his quote.

[sgtclub]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

I look forward to working with our new Tea Party overlords! More fun than Penske photoshops back in the day, except that they'll be sitting in Congress!

While I certainly couldn't vote for several (many?, all?) of the tea bag candidates*, I think you are misreading the landscape if you think they are all just stupid, immature, reactive, racist, etc.

The tea bag movement has captured and capitalized on the frustrations that have been building in this country since at least the mid-90s. A huge portion of the electorate is simply tired of the culture wars, your team my team environment, and greedy, moronic politicians that have served the public horribly for the last 15 years. They are at our wits end, and if that means electing a few morons to make a point, so be it.

I suspect (hope) if the newly elected crop doesn't follow through or the economy doesn't improve, we will see something similar come 2012 (with the Rs being booted out in dramatic fashion).

*I really don't see how these candidates are any worse than some of those we already have in office.

[Gattigap]

Originally Posted by sgtclub

While I certainly couldn't vote for several (many?, all?) of the tea bag candidates*, I think you are misreading the landscape if you think they are all just stupid, immature, reactive, racist, etc.

The tea bag movement has captured and capitalized on the frustrations that have been building in this country since at least the mid-90s. A huge portion of the electorate is simply tired of the culture wars, your team my team environment, and greedy, moronic politicians that have served the public horribly for the last 15 years. They are at our wits end, and if that means electing a few morons to make a point, so be it.

I suspect (hope) if the newly elected crop doesn't follow through or the economy doesn't improve, we will see something similar come 2012 (with the Rs being booted out in dramatic fashion).

*I really don't see how these candidates are any worse than some of those we already have in office.

I'd suggest you read as a reference point some of the results of WaPo's months of research trying to contact and poll every Tea Party organization known to be in existence. I think it's hard to make many definitive statements about what they really want or think.

[sgtclub]

I haven't looked at this closely, but it looks like the administration should get some credit for this:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Ford-k...&asset=&ccode=

[Tyrone Slothrop]

What will happen after the election?

So much conventional wisdom! So much repudiation of the conventional wisdom! So much repudiation of the conventional wisdom BECOMING the conventional wisdom! It's tiresome, no? I read a ton of political blogs, and this is pretty much the takeaway from all of them. I'm here to tell you that while perhaps there is something to this analysis, there is one other highly likely scenario that risk-averse pundits are ignoring so that they huddle safely in the comfort of the Lamestream Media-approved narrative. But what is it?

Republicans will re-take the House and just barely miss taking the Senate. They will announce that unless the President agrees to the repeal of the health care bill they will prevent any other legislation moving forward, and will block the consideration of all nominees requiring Congressional approval.

President Obama, delivering his first State of the Union address with John Boehner seated behind him, will lower his head and announce his disappointment over the opposition party's unwillingness to make any serious efforts to help heal the country in this time of national crisis. Then, staring at the ceiling, he will transform into a beam of pure energy, all light and fire, and soar through the Capitol roof. The message left on his teleprompter will read "UNLESS."

Seeking to take advantage of this bizarre and unprecedented event, the House will immediately begin impeachment proceedings against newly-installed President Joe Biden on the grounds that his hair plugs constitute high crimes and that in any event the founders never intended anyone from Delaware to hold the highest office in the land. Biden's Senate trial will result in his being removed from office after Chief Justice John Roberts, the presiding officer, rules that corporations should also be allowed a vote in the matter. John Boehner, following the rules of succession, will be sworn in as President of the United States. His nominee for Vice President, Wal-Mart, will be swiftly approved, although there will be confusion over how it will be able to fit into its alloted space in the West Wing.

The economy will continue to stagger, leading to rising anger among independents and Democrats, although President Boehner will retain the support of Tea Party groups, who, when asked to reconcile their positive feelings about the new administration even in the face of growing deficits, will respond, "Oh, we were never really serious about that. It was the black guy thing, actually. Jeez, we thought that was pretty obvious." Disappointed liberals, meanwhile, will attempt to form a counter-movement, but give up as soon as Steve Jobs unveils a new edition of the iPad, which will keep them busy for the next couple of years as they talk to each other about all the amazing features.

After audiotape emerges of President Boehner referring to Sarah Palin, host of the number one-rated Fox program "America's Most Hottest," as "dumber than a pack of Camel Lights" and claiming that "my tan is brighter than she is," the former Alaska governor will threaten a primary challenge against the incumbent, "unless me and each memeber of my family gets $40 million dollars tax free, plus clothing expenses." Seeking to avoid a divisive campaign, the Chamber of Commerce will solicit the full amount from anonymous Chinese donors, leaving the Republican nomination in Boehner's nicotine-stained hands.

Amid a chaotic Democratic National Convention in Minneapolis, Hillary Clinton will be on the verge of accepting her party's nomination when suddenly a beam of pure energy, all light and fire, will soar through the hall. A shining Barack Obama will emerge at the podium and deliver the following speech:

At that very moment the celestial Obama's attention will be distracted by a shiny new iPad in the front row, and he will step down from the podium to play around with it. A couple of months later a small boy in Montana will accidentally set a fire that burns the whole country to the ground, and the world's greatest hope for democracy will return to ash.



The other possibility is that the employment slowly picks up, Republicans overplay their hand, and Obama gets re-elected based on the fact that voters pretty much only care about the economy. But I think we'd be wise to pay attention to the "beam of light" scenario. I know history doesn't repeat exactly, but this is pretty close to how it played out for Harry Truman back in '48.

Alex Balk

[sgtclub]

Originally Posted by Gattigap

I'd suggest you read as a reference point some of the results of WaPo's months of research trying to contact and poll every Tea Party organization known to be in existence. I think it's hard to make many definitive statements about what they really want or think.

I'm not sure what you want me to do with this link, but I certainly don't need WaPo to tell me what is plain as day.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by sgtclub

While I certainly couldn't vote for several (many?, all?) of the tea bag candidates*, I think you are misreading the landscape if you think they are all just stupid, immature, reactive, racist, etc.

The tea bag movement has captured and capitalized on the frustrations that have been building in this country since at least the mid-90s. A huge portion of the electorate is simply tired of the culture wars, your team my team environment, and greedy, moronic politicians that have served the public horribly for the last 15 years. They are at our wits end, and if that means electing a few morons to make a point, so be it.

I suspect (hope) if the newly elected crop doesn't follow through or the economy doesn't improve, we will see something similar come 2012 (with the Rs being booted out in dramatic fashion).

*I really don't see how these candidates are any worse than some of those we already have in office.

The Tea Party is the new name for the conservative wing of the Republican Party, and some of them are morons, just like some Democrats are morons.

[Cletus Miller]

Originally Posted by sgtclub

A huge portion of the electorate is simply tired of the culture wars, your team my team environment, and greedy, moronic politicians that have served the public horribly for the last 15 years.

I don't see that the Tea Baggers are addressing any of these problems in a constructive way, but I agree than a majority of voters are tired of one or more of those things. Unfortunately for all of us, and as gatti notes, there's significant disagreement in what will ameliorate those problems.

[sgtclub]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

The Tea Party is the new name for the conservative wing of the Republican Party, and some of them are morons, just like some Democrats are morons.

I think this is a misread as well. Certainly the GOP is trying to bring them into the tent, but I don't think the average Tea Bagger readily identifies with either political party.

I'm supportive of the movement because I like to see the establishment shaken up. When I vote next week, I will be voting out every incumbent on the ballot, regardless of party.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by sgtclub

While I certainly couldn't vote for several (many?, all?) of the tea bag candidates*, I think you are misreading the landscape if you think they are all just stupid, immature, reactive, racist, etc.

The tea bag movement has captured and capitalized on the frustrations that have been building in this country since at least the mid-90s. A huge portion of the electorate is simply tired of the culture wars, your team my team environment, and greedy, moronic politicians that have served the public horribly for the last 15 years. They are at our wits end, and if that means electing a few morons to make a point, so be it.

I suspect (hope) if the newly elected crop doesn't follow through or the economy doesn't improve, we will see something similar come 2012 (with the Rs being booted out in dramatic fashion).

*I really don't see how these candidates are any worse than some of those we already have in office.

Do you want a sitting senator who opposes the separation of church and state (Buck)? Who talks about 2nd amendment remedies if they lose (Angle)? Who keeps private security to "arrest" journalists at their public events (Miller)?

Other than DeMint and Bunning, who is this out to lunch among the current members of the US Senate?

[sgtclub]

Originally Posted by Cletus Miller

I don't see that the Tea Baggers are addressing any of these problems in a constructive way, but I agree than a majority of voters are tired of one or more of those things. Unfortunately for all of us, and as gatti notes, there's significant disagreement in what will ameliorate those problems.

I see the voting out of incumbants and nominating candidates that are not backed by the machine as a huge step forward.

[sgtclub]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

Do you want a sitting senator who opposes the separation of church and state (Buck)? Who talks about 2nd amendment remedies if they lose (Angle)? Who keeps private security to "arrest" journalists at their public events (Miller)?

Other than DeMint and Bunning, who is this out to lunch among the current members of the US Senate?

Of course not, but in small numbers and given the checks and balances that we have, they don't really scare me either, and I would trade them rooting out the entrenched assholes that we currently have up there.

Oh, and I think Boxer is about as bad as you get in the Senate, and I'm praying she gets beat by Carly.

[Cletus Miller]

Originally Posted by sgtclub

I see the voting out of incumbants and nominating candidates that are not backed by the machine as a huge step forward.

In many cases, a potted plant would have been a better candidate. O'Donnell would lose to one, Harry Reid would lose to one. Rubio--darling of the FL-wing of the TP--is exactly the sort of career politician you should abhor even if not the incumbent in the seat.

We in Illinois are consistently screwed by the extremists in the Illinois R party and the Dem machine who leave any centrist with a choice between two idiots, neither of whom have the best interests of the general public as their goal.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by sgtclub

The tea bag movement has captured and capitalized on the frustrations that have been building in this country since at least the mid-90s. A huge portion of the electorate is simply tired of the culture wars, your team my team environment, and greedy, moronic politicians that have served the public horribly for the last 15 years. They are at our wits end, and if that means electing a few morons to make a point, so be it.

So you have just ignored all interviews/surveys of teabaggers and chosen to project instead?