Election 2010: Teabaggin' the Ds & Rs

[sgtclub]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

I think you're smart, except for one thing you do that makes me think you're dumb. you know what the one thing is?

hint: I'm quoting an example of it.

No clue, unless you are talking about spelling/grammar, which I don't care about on a chat board.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by sgtclub

No clue, unless you are talking about spelling/grammar, which I don't care about on a chat board.

me spelling?

no. you tried to engage Ty as if he were capable of a thoughtful interchange of ideas. that shows a lack of perception on your part. no offense.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

so monday I'm going to Savannah. I'm sick of running in the low 20s, it'll be a nice break right?

just checked the weather: highs about 42, lows 14. NWTF? I know the global warming crowd has changed to "climate change" digging in their nails, but can one of you explain it me again?

Do you need restaurant recs?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by sgtclub

They did vote. They just voted for BO.

No. That's the point. McCain voters outnumbered Obama voters last month.

eta: The first source I can find says I got this wrong, but it was pretty close:

The Republicans relied on differential turnout. Among Tuesday's voters, 46 percent voted for Obama in 2008, 45 percent for John McCain -- an election Obama won by 53-45 percent.

ABC News

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally Posted by sgtclub

Anyone have a view on Wikileaks? At first blush, I don't really see what law was broken.

My view is that Assange should slip and fall and break his neck. I don't have any thoughts on the merits of a potential prosecution.

S_A_M

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally Posted by sgtclub

the independents make up a larger and larger percentage of the electorate each election cycle, and are always in play. Yes, high turn-out helped him, but independents breaking for him heavy helped even more. They broke the other way in 2010. Their vote is up for grabs in 2012. He needs to pay attention to his base, but not kowtow to it - he needs to pick certain issues that his base cares about and that are not offensive to the middle and back them stridently - he should even pick a fight or 2 with the rs on these issues for street cred. He also needs to present himself as the only reasonable adult in the conversation - an arbitrator of what is right and good for the country, if you will. Sometime that will mean compromising with the rs, but even then, he should get something out of the deal, to protect his left flank and appear reasonable to the middle.

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[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

No. That's the point. McCain voters outnumbered Obama voters last month.

eta: The first source I can find says I got this wrong, but it was pretty close:



ABC News

I know it's stupid to try this, but your point is that McCain voters turned out at about the same level as Obama. Remember, there were more obama voters.

but Einstein, the result was the biggest landslide in decades. That means "obama voters" switched.

Club, it's now your turn to remind me why this doesn't make sense to do.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Better to tax something we don't want more of (carbon emissions) than something we do want more of (corporate income).

Except, when it's effective, revenues start to drop. Viz. states finding themselves lacking in tobacco-tax money that they'd hoped for

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Has someone posted this telling graphic yet?

[sgtclub]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

I know it's stupid to try this, but your point is that McCain voters turned out at about the same level as Obama. Remember, there were more obama voters.

but Einstein, the result was the biggest landslide in decades. That means "obama voters" switched.

Club, it's now your turn to remind me why this doesn't make sense to do.

I think you're smart, except for one thing you do that makes me think you're dumb. You know what the one thing is.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by sgtclub

I think you're smart, except for one thing you do that makes me think you're dumb. You know what the one thing is.

thanks for this. Can you put together an intervention for ty? I'll fly in.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

I know it's stupid to try this, but your point is that McCain voters turned out at about the same level as Obama. Remember, there were more obama voters.

but Einstein, the result was the biggest landslide in decades. That means "obama voters" switched.

Club, it's now your turn to remind me why this doesn't make sense to do.

IIRC, that poll said that 13% of Obama voters voted for Republicans, and 8% of McCain voters voted for Democrats.

It's stupid to think you can win an election only with your base. You want to win independents. But you also don't want to alienate your base, because then you have to win even more of the independents.

[sgtclub]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

IIRC, that poll said that 13% of Obama voters voted for Republicans, and 8% of McCain voters voted for Democrats.

It's stupid to think you can win an election only with your base. You want to win independents. But you also don't want to alienate your base, because then you have to win even more of the independents.

What is an "Obama voter"

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by sgtclub

What is an "Obama voter"

Someone who voted for Obama in 2008.

[sgtclub]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Someone who voted for Obama in 2008.

Like an independent?