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Old 09-15-2009, 04:52 PM   #3286
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A final golf anecdote, Mr Man is a powerful driver -- he hits the ball further than anyone I have ever played with -- and I've never (really! never!) seen him slice. I think that is all about power arm forward and not trying to kill it as you would with a baseball swing.
The two guys I know who crush the ball (I've witnessed them fly 330) barely look like they're swinging.
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Old 09-15-2009, 04:55 PM   #3287
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The two guys I know who crush the ball (I've witnessed them fly 330) barely look like they're swinging.
But they cannot walk to the park.
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Old 09-15-2009, 05:03 PM   #3288
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This is the second time you've used this expression today and the second time I've wondered what you've meant.

Because in my experience, there's no such thing.
I mean I've never been hospitalized for it as a family member has been. As such, I consider it "mild."

For me, it primarily manifests in the unreality between what I see as compared to what everyone else sees.

I do not consider this outable, as I am not the only woman or man I know who suffers from it. In fact, in our family, we joke that "we are only fat between our ears."
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Old 09-15-2009, 05:25 PM   #3289
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Clearly I'm not talking about these people. If you're at the gym and you spend all your time lifting and doing abs and you're 50 pounds overweight, I cannot possibly imagine that doing some cardio work will kill you. Similarly, I doubt the doctor's advice consisted of doing 40 reps of bench press with tremendous amounts of weight and 100 half-ass crunches. But maybe they're just interested in being stronger and don't care about losing fat. But that doesn't explain why so many stupid ab trainers and 5 minute ab tapes are sold, does it?
There are plenty of studies to back up the idea that circuit training can be better for fat burning than straight cardio work. In other words, you don't need cardio to burn fat and some people find lifting a better way to lose weight than cardio.

A good book to lead to some of these studies is "The New Rules of Lifting."

It also bugs me when people who have lots of stomach fat do crunches. How much can those relatively small muscles burn? It is far more efficient to use your largest muscles if you want to burn the most fat.

My brother lost 40 pounds and really went from flab to rock hard fit without every getting on a bike or running. Now that he is in good shape he bikes for fun, but returns to lifting when he feels his weight getting in the way.

Me, I'm an armchair fattie. My Wii Fit groans when I step on it and then squeals like a small Asian woman at the all you can eat buffet "you too fat, you leave and don't come back."
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Old 09-15-2009, 05:40 PM   #3290
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There are plenty of studies to back up the idea that circuit training can be better for fat burning than straight cardio work. In other words, you don't need cardio to burn fat and some people find lifting a better way to lose weight than cardio.

A good book to lead to some of these studies is "The New Rules of Lifting."

It also bugs me when people who have lots of stomach fat do crunches. How much can those relatively small muscles burn? It is far more efficient to use your largest muscles if you want to burn the most fat.

My brother lost 40 pounds and really went from flab to rock hard fit without every getting on a bike or running. Now that he is in good shape he bikes for fun, but returns to lifting when he feels his weight getting in the way.

Me, I'm an armchair fattie. My Wii Fit groans when I step on it and then squeals like a small Asian woman at the all you can eat buffet "you too fat, you leave and don't come back."

I think people make this too complicated. Penske went to the show twice, weighing a buck forty dripping wet coming off his taper with 3% body fat, on three guiding principles (and no books)....

no pain no gain;

go big or go home and cry in the fucking corner;

go fast or die (shout out to the rockfish!).

That would be the sum and substance of the "Penske guide to fitness".

Of course the midskools and nu-skools here don't realise that before Penske was Penske he was tonystark and GFSK and in a homage to the same, in the lyrics of GhostFace, Your boy Penske getting fat now
he got the fat stomach and laid up, eating and drinking good now.......


Boo yah.
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Old 09-15-2009, 05:42 PM   #3291
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To everyone now saying Raising Arizona is better than Lebowski, you people are bastard people. RA has inspired almost zero board lore and inside jokes. (Admittedly, maybe infertility wasn't something safe to joke about back when the boards were anonymous, but still.)

De gustibus, you gustibus, we missed the bus, I say. But there is precious little support in the 10 years of administrative record of our conversations that would prove RA even existed, and that's gotta indicate something about the relative greatness of Lebowski.
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Old 09-15-2009, 05:46 PM   #3292
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I mean I've never been hospitalized for it as a family member has been. As such, I consider it "mild."

For me, it primarily manifests in the unreality between what I see as compared to what everyone else sees.
Well shit, if that's the differential diagnosis, Hank's got a flaming case of the mild eating disorder.
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Old 09-15-2009, 05:49 PM   #3293
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There are plenty of studies to back up the idea that circuit training can be better for fat burning than straight cardio work. In other words, you don't need cardio to burn fat and some people find lifting a better way to lose weight than cardio.

A good book to lead to some of these studies is "The New Rules of Lifting."

It also bugs me when people who have lots of stomach fat do crunches. How much can those relatively small muscles burn? It is far more efficient to use your largest muscles if you want to burn the most fat.

My brother lost 40 pounds and really went from flab to rock hard fit without every getting on a bike or running. Now that he is in good shape he bikes for fun, but returns to lifting when he feels his weight getting in the way.

Me, I'm an armchair fattie. My Wii Fit groans when I step on it and then squeals like a small Asian woman at the all you can eat buffet "you too fat, you leave and don't come back."
When I have to lose weight, I do a lot of long cardio sessions and cut out carbs. The weight just falls off. When I don't have to lose weight, I work out with weights more. It seems that if I eat more than a moderate amount of carbs, I gain weight, if I eat a moderate amount of carbs and lift weights plus moderate cardio, I stay the same, and if I eat a moderate amount of carbs and do tons of cardio, I lose weight.

This is only something I've had to concern myself about in the past few years -- before that I could eat whatever I wanted and work out however I wanted and I would not gain weight. And I still eat however much protein or fat I want -- yum. I am not sure if what works for me would work for anyone else though.
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Old 09-15-2009, 05:51 PM   #3294
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Alice Cooper trying to get Kermit the Frog to sell his soul to the devil is fucking awesome entry on this list of the ten weirdest moments on the Muppet show.
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Old 09-15-2009, 05:56 PM   #3295
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Well shit, if that's the differential diagnosis, Hank's got a flaming case of the mild eating disorder.
Also chronic erectile dysfunction, or, at least that's what his mrs. uses a pretext for all of her booty calls to me.
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......GhostFace.....

Speaking of GhostFace, his new video for Stapleton Sex, that just dropped, is making me re-think my longstanding disinterest in the BDSM.....

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Speaking of GhostFace, his new video for Stapleton Sex, that just dropped, is making me re-think my longstanding disinterest in the BDSM.....

follow link from here:

ghostface gets dirty
Intriguing how he works in a reference to diabetes-related E.D.
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Intriguing how he works in a reference to diabetes-related E.D.
I was more focused on the intriguing use of electrical tape, although, given that I am now sporting a joaquinphoenix style beard, I appreciated the reference to how he absorbs p@$$y juice like a sponge........
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To everyone now saying Raising Arizona is better than Lebowski, you people are bastard people. RA has inspired almost zero board lore and inside jokes. (Admittedly, maybe infertility wasn't something safe to joke about back when the boards were anonymous, but still.)

De gustibus, you gustibus, we missed the bus, I say. But there is precious little support in the 10 years of administrative record of our conversations that would prove RA even existed, and that's gotta indicate something about the relative greatness of Lebowski.
By that measure, American Idol is a better show than The Wire.
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To everyone now saying Raising Arizona is better than Lebowski, you people are bastard people. RA has inspired almost zero board lore and inside jokes. (Admittedly, maybe infertility wasn't something safe to joke about back when the boards were anonymous, but still.)

De gustibus, you gustibus, we missed the bus, I say. But there is precious little support in the 10 years of administrative record of our conversations that would prove RA even existed, and that's gotta indicate something about the relative greatness of Lebowski.
You're not just telling us what we want to hear?

Because we want to hear the truth.
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