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Old 07-08-2009, 02:02 PM   #811
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Why not do it? What are they going to do, arrest him?
What, you don't care if RT gets in trouble?

It doesn't look like you can push the raft off from the shore, you'd have to tow it out to deep water three miles from shore. And make sure the whole deal will burn like crazy (or weight down the corpse) to satisfy the requirement that the remains will sink to the bottom quickly and permanently. Other than that, it could work.

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In the US , Section 229.1 of the Environmental Protection Agency Regulations covers burial at sea. The rule is as follows:

It's legal for anyone owning or operating a boat or plane registered in the United States to transport human remains for the purpose of burial.


The body has to be prepared for a burial at sea according to the requirements of the United States Navy, Coast Guard or civil authority responsible for the arrangements.


If the remains aren't cremated they have to be taken at least three nautical miles from land and can't be buried in water less than one hundred fathoms or six hundred feet deep. You have to take precautions to be sure that the remains will sink to the bottom quickly and permanently.


If the remains are cremated, they can be buried in any depth of water as long as it's at least three nautical miles from land.


Flowers and wreaths can be left at the site of disposal as long as they're decomposable in water.


A burial at sea has to be reported to the Regional Administrator of the Region within 30 days.
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What, you don't care if RT gets in trouble?
If she truly cares for him, what would it matter? I think RT could handle a little probation to give her beloved everlasting peace.

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It doesn't look like you can push the raft off from the shore, you'd have to tow it out to deep water three miles from shore. And make sure the whole deal will burn like crazy (or weight down the corpse) to satisfy the requirement that the remains will sink to the bottom quickly and permanently. Other than that, it could work.
It would be totally awesome. I've never weighted down a corpse.
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What, you don't care if RT gets in trouble?

It doesn't look like you can push the raft off from the shore, you'd have to tow it out to deep water three miles from shore. And make sure the whole deal will burn like crazy (or weight down the corpse) to satisfy the requirement that the remains will sink to the bottom quickly and permanently. Other than that, it could work.
loophole! i believe an early section of the environmental rules makes clear they don't apply to registered Dem voters, just ask Algore.
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Old 07-08-2009, 02:12 PM   #814
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I'm set. Pine coffin, bagpipes, lots of whisky for the guests. [I'd rather be put on a raft and set on fire and pushed to sea, but don't think one can get permits for that]

Anyone have funeral plans that are interesting (or would subject you to ridicule).

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Old 07-08-2009, 02:12 PM   #815
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I've told my family I want to be cremated. I'm not sure if I've also mentioned that I'd want my ashes scattered in a part of the back pasture we call "The Island."
I want to be cremated after being stripped for parts, if there are any left that are suitable for rebuild.
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Although I did once buy a beer for wonk. Close.
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It would be totally awesome. I've never weighted down a corpse.
That or figure out how to get a really really hot fire going on the raft.
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Old 07-08-2009, 02:29 PM   #818
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I find that really hard to believe. You never turn on the cable news networks? Never visit any online news sources?
I find that I've come across more people bitching about it than actual coverage. But then again, I stick to mostly sports and Tivo. As for the internet, I avoid most of the coverage by not clicking on it.

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Old 07-08-2009, 02:32 PM   #819
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As for the internet, I avoid most of the coverage by not clicking on it.
Sure, but it's still there, and you have to read the link to see that you don't want to click on it.

CNN seems to be wrost. Everytime I flipped to it during my morning newswatching this week they seemed to be talking Michael (and the website is no better). It's enough to drive a person to watch Morning Joe, almost.
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Old 07-08-2009, 02:35 PM   #820
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That or figure out how to get a really really hot fire going on the raft.
Lots of wood and ghee, with a little jet fuel thrown in.

I can find a swami familiar with the process, if you'd like.
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Old 07-08-2009, 02:37 PM   #821
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I have a playlist specified in my will and advanced directive. It includes Warren Zevon and the Clash, among others. Gumbo will be served.
No heart tartare?
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I find that I've come across more people bitching about it than actual coverage. But then again, I stick to mostly sports and Tivo. As for the internet, I avoid most of the coverage by not clicking on it.

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Fine, but you might pay closer attention to the fiasco that was his memorial if your (bankrupt) city was using its emergency disaster funds to pay for security detail for it. I went from doing my best to ignore all the hoopla to wanting to tar and feather each and every member of the Jackson family and the top executives at AEG for wasting our fucking money over the course of the last 48 hours. Fuck Michael Jackson. Fuck Staples Center. Fuck AEG.

No, I didn't watch the memorial or any coverage of the memorial. I have not turned on CNN or any other news station since he died. I have seen little bits and pieces of local coverage and read a blog item or two on LAist, but that's about it.
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Fine, but you might pay closer attention to the fiasco that was his memorial if your (bankrupt) city was using its emergency disaster funds to pay for security detail for it. I went from doing my best to ignore all the hoopla to wanting to tar and feather each and every member of the Jackson family and the top executives at AEG for wasting our fucking money over the course of the last 48 hours. Fuck Michael Jackson. Fuck Staples Center. Fuck AEG.

No, I didn't watch the memorial or any coverage of the memorial. I have not turned on CNN or any other news station since he died. I have seen little bits and pieces of local coverage and read a blog item or two on LAist, but that's about it.
Who has the DVD rights to his funeral?
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Fine, but you might pay closer attention to the fiasco that was his memorial if your (bankrupt) city was using its emergency disaster funds to pay for security detail for it. I went from doing my best to ignore all the hoopla to wanting to tar and feather each and every member of the Jackson family and the top executives at AEG for wasting our fucking money over the course of the last 48 hours. Fuck Michael Jackson. Fuck Staples Center. Fuck AEG.
So why did the city have to pay for security? Do they close the freeways for all funeral processions? For regular concert/sporting events at Staples Center does the city have to pay for extra police or do the event organizers?

AEG should definitely have to cough up some dough for the city because it was such an unnecessary thing.
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Fine, but you might pay closer attention to the fiasco that was his memorial if your (bankrupt) city was using its emergency disaster funds to pay for security detail for it. I went from doing my best to ignore all the hoopla to wanting to tar and feather each and every member of the Jackson family and the top executives at AEG for wasting our fucking money over the course of the last 48 hours. Fuck Michael Jackson. Fuck Staples Center. Fuck AEG.

No, I didn't watch the memorial or any coverage of the memorial. I have not turned on CNN or any other news station since he died. I have seen little bits and pieces of local coverage and read a blog item or two on LAist, but that's about it.

Lots of wood and ghee, with a little jet fuel thrown in.
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