I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

...Unless further division is intended.

Is this thing on?

[Adder]

Originally Posted by notcasesensitive

Ha ha ha. I'm glad to be doing my part to turn the politics board into the fashion board.

Well it sounds like ya could be but ya aren't.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Adder

As a crotchety old dude: real music requires actual instruments.

False

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Adder

As a crotchety old dude: real music requires actual instruments.

Some hip hop qualifies. Some does not.

Wait. Is this serious?

If so, does a turntable* qualify as an "actual instrument" in your mind? How about beat boxing?+ A TR-808?^ A computer?~

TM

*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEKRAn-ZleM

+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mtop6MCENsY

^http://www.rollingstone.com/music/vi...w-doc-20141015

~https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aayZ9ybDTBw

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by taxwonk

You say this as though there's such a thing as freaky ass clean shit.

There's a difference. You can be freaky and non-burnt freaky. But if you're making trips to Tijuana to see just how dirty it gets, you're definitely getting burnt.

TM

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

Wait. Is this serious?

If so, does a turntable* qualify as an "actual instrument" in your mind? How about beat boxing?+ A TR-808?^ A computer?~

TM

*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEKRAn-ZleM

+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mtop6MCENsY

^http://www.rollingstone.com/music/vi...w-doc-20141015

~https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aayZ9ybDTBw

There's a turntable class at Berklee: https://www.berklee.edu/courses/ilen-333

'course, they also teach electronic music composition and production, so they're probably not a real music school: https://online.berklee.edu/courses/i...sic-production

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally Posted by Adder

As a crotchety old dude: real music requires actual instruments.

Some hip hop qualifies. Some does not.

That probably makes me a bigot.

OH MY FUCKING GOD, this displays such an incredible fucking ignorance of the artistry and creativity that goes into making hip hop music (and also writes off pretty much ALL electronica and most pop music today as non-music), it makes my fucking head explode. Go watch Hip Hop Evolution and The Get Down and Scratch and . . . actually, don't bother. You clearly have so little concept about how most "music" has been made in the last 30 years that you are completely beyond hope. You probably listen to the little top 40 songs and imagine real live musicians playing horns and strings and other "legitimate instruments" because you lack any fucking clue about music today. But let me say with absolute certainty that so many of the DJs and producers who created the music behind the rappers were far greater musicians and musical visionaries than so many of the technically gifted but musically pedestrian session musicians that created the background for the singing that you enjoy.

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

Wait. Is this serious?

If so, does a turntable* qualify as an "actual instrument" in your mind? How about beat boxing?+ A TR-808?^ A computer?~

TM

*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEKRAn-ZleM

+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mtop6MCENsY

^http://www.rollingstone.com/music/vi...w-doc-20141015

~https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aayZ9ybDTBw

Exactly.

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

There's a turntable class at Berklee: https://www.berklee.edu/courses/ilen-333

'course, they also teach electronic music composition and production, so they're probably not a real music school: https://online.berklee.edu/courses/i...sic-production

Everyone I know who graduated Berklee is excellent at telling when the burger is medium well.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

There's a turntable class at Berklee: https://www.berklee.edu/courses/ilen-333

'course, they also teach electronic music composition and production, so they're probably not a real music school: https://online.berklee.edu/courses/i...sic-production

Symphony for Orchestra and Turntable

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

Man, it is very disconcerting to be an old white dude who recalls rap from my youth. What am I supposed to do?

On behalf of America, however, I think we should all disavow Tony Orlando, with or without Dawn. That shit should go back to the elevator it was born in and just descend to the basement.

You're supposed to be an old white dude who gets drunk and spouts his philosophy.

"No! You little shits... Get your history straight! He's wasn't in fucking REM! But he should have been in Sublime... But that's another story. Get that frisbee off my lawn or I'll keep it!"

This should never leave anyone's permanent playlist.

If you mix up NWA, Motorhead, Dead Kennedys, and the first three PE records, you get a running mix that inclines you to amazing levels of aggression - some pointless, but most validated.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Adder

Is this thing on?

That is, demographically speaking, political suicide.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

You're supposed to be an old white dude who gets drunk and spouts his philosophy.

"No! You little shits... Get your history straight! He's wasn't in fucking REM! But he should have been in Sublime... But that's another story. Get that frisbee off my lawn or I'll keep it!"

This should never leave anyone's permanent playlist.

If you mix up NWA, Motorhead, Dead Kennedys, and the first three PE records, you get a running mix that inclines you to amazing levels of aggression - some pointless, but most validated.

That's all well and good but I've moved on. My musical life right now revolves around how the Pipa and Urhu can work with a full orchestra and electric violin.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

Wait. Is this serious?

Yes.

If so, does a turntable* qualify as an "actual instrument" in your mind? How about beat boxing?+ A TR-808?^ A computer?~

No.

There may be some exceptions, but we're in crotchety old white dude territory here so they can be ignored.

ETA: Okay, so I'll give beat boxing a maybe and grant Ty the choral exception, although I'm not a big fan of choral music in general.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Adder

No.

There may be some exceptions, but we're in crotchety old white dude territory here so they can be ignored.

I know you're trying to be cutesy, but this is so fucking stupid that I wouldn't expect it from you.

TM